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| Posted by: | chatter 08:42 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | What controversy? *nmi* - tohshoo 08:41 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| She's not without charm, and she's working hard. I feel for her. She's not in her element, and I think she knows. She's showing it. It's too bad she wasn't able to cut her teeth on something lower profile. I wish her well. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | chatter 08:46 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - chatter 08:42 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| But what's going on w/the guy singing '16 going on 17' (Rolf?). He's very handsome and sexy, but jeez, he looks 30!! | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | LegitOnce 01:40 am EST 12/06/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - chatter 08:46 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Well, the actor Michael Campayno played Billy Bigelow as a sophomore in college in 2009 and Gaston in high school(!) in 2008, so that makes him about 23 or 24 now. He does look more mature than that. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | Ann 09:26 am EST 12/06/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - LegitOnce 01:40 am EST 12/06/13 |
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| Which made his Billy Bigelow much better than you would find in most school productions. As a side note, he was a Drama student at Carnegie Mellon (that's not where he did Carousel) and not Musical Theatre. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | Shakespeare_in_the_Dark 08:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - chatter 08:46 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| yeah, but the gal's absolutely charming in this sequence... and as weak as this has otherwise been, thus far, particularly with all the missed beats in the pacing of the acting, it has kind of made the heart soar a couple of times; the Von Trapps traipsing, the sweep of the orchestra (when you can hear it)... | |
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| So far | |
| Posted by: | tohshoo 09:03 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - Shakespeare_in_the_Dark 08:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I want to love this but it's hard. The acting is horrible. I feel like everyone is just reciting their lines (Maria and the kids). Also, the scene where Liesl comes through the bedroom window and accepts Maria's help doesn't work for me. Liesl didn't really put up a fuss about Maria's arrival. They all took to her immediately (no pranks pulled on Maria) so, it's not as touching when when Maria wins them over. I want to say, "Well, they only had 3 months to put this together" but that is a long time! I'm kind of hoping for a Carol Burnett moment, where they all crack up and can't stop ;o) (just because it's live tv, not because I want them to fail, if that makes sense) | |
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| Posted by: | SQ 09:11 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | So far - tohshoo 09:03 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I have only seen the musical once, so I don't remember. This is the musical and not the movie. Are there suppose to pranks? | |
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| Posted by: | Alison 09:24 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: confused - SQ 09:11 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| No, in the stage version they take to her right away. No pranks. | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:41 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: confused - Alison 09:24 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Well, not RIGHT away. It takes them joining in to "Do Re Mi" before they really lose their skepticism about her. | |
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| Stage vs. film | |
| Posted by: | tohshoo 09:37 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: confused - Alison 09:24 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Oh, good to know (stage version vs. film version). I didn't know they didn't play pranks. After watching the film for the last 40+ years, this version is hard to get used to. | |
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| Posted by: | SQ 09:41 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | Stage vs. film - tohshoo 09:37 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I saw the musical at Paper Mill, and it was odd getting used to. I hope that the TV audience gives this one a chance. This is not the movie. I give props to Carrie Underwood for attempting this. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | tohshoo 08:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - chatter 08:46 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| LOL He does look 30. I noticed that in the 'behind the scenes' special that aired. I don't like that they all liked Maria right off the bat. No frogs. No snakes. No crying at the table. And so many songs so quick! I'm still enjoying this but Carrie is, well, not a good actor, imo. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 10:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - tohshoo 08:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| "I don't like that they all liked Maria right off the bat. No frogs. No snakes. No crying at the table. And so many songs so quick!" It's the show. | |
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| Ah, should have read the whole thread before responding | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 10:54 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - AlanScott 10:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I see that you were told this is the way it is in the stage version in some posts higher up. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | skiver 08:56 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - tohshoo 08:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| This is a very nice looking production and I've enjoyed the musical numbers so far. Carrie isn't much of an actress but I give her credit for attempting this. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | Page 11:20 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - skiver 08:56 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| For "live" television this was a beautifully staged production. Abbey and mansion sets were gorgeous! I only have one quibble about the festival set. I thought it was too small and very much like the Kit Kat Club in Cabaret. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | mamaleh 09:26 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - skiver 08:56 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Props for her hard work, but should all that work be so evident? Carrie sings well but she reminds me of someone in a school play. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | skiver 08:51 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - chatter 08:46 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Yea, looks older than 17 - nice voice, though. | |
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| re: What controversy? *nmi* | |
| Posted by: | chatter 08:53 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - skiver 08:51 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| nice everything, if you ask me! | |
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| Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | Shakespeare_in_the_Dark 09:00 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: What controversy? *nmi* - chatter 08:53 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I get it. Its THE STEPFORD MARIA! ;-) But Liesl, Liesl, Liesl!!! | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | LegitOnce 09:48 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - Shakespeare_in_the_Dark 09:00 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| The whole cast has that affected "drama school" diction, e.g., Liesl sings "tot-ta-lee" instead of the more informal and more singable "tod-a-ly." I could maybe see the point of having to spit out consonants like that if they were doing this unmiked in the Lunt-Fontanne, but in the relative intimacy of a television studio, surely singing diction can be a little more colloquial and closer to spoken English. | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 10:38 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - LegitOnce 09:48 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| If they'd been to drama school and been taught stage speech along what for decades was the standard lines, that's what they wouldn't be doing. Nowadays, I so often hear people sing using the long e sound rather than the short i sound for unstressed syllables spelled with e (reply, believe, begin, relief). But using the short i is what was taught by Edith Skinner, whose book, Speak With Distinction, was the standard text but is now going out of fashion. | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | LegitOnce 10:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - AlanScott 10:38 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| What is driving me crazy is "ih" for unstressed short e, e.g., "girls in white dress-izz." | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 11:01 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - LegitOnce 10:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I got a different impression from your earlier post. What would you rather hear in the second syllable of "dresses" instead of the short i? | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | LegitOnce 11:20 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - AlanScott 11:01 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I prefer a softer consonant sound because it helps the legato. The unstressed soft "e" when it's held for any length of time (as in a moderate tempo song like "My Favorite Things" I like somewhere between "eh" and "uh," not "ih" because that "ih" sound vulgar to me. Also, that "ih" tends to pull the voice out of the "round" position and then, only a note or two later, the singer has to re-establish that position. That's hard on the voice and it adds to what the singer needs to be thinking about. (Ideally, the basic vocal position shouldn't shift about but should remain consistent.) | |
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| I wish Rodgers and Hammerstein wrote somethings besides that "jam and tea" riff | |
| Posted by: | PlayWiz 10:54 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - LegitOnce 10:52 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| at the Festival Hall. Just sounds silly even when well done. | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | krebsman 09:47 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - Shakespeare_in_the_Dark 09:00 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| "What is it you cannNOT face?" Just to make sure nobody misunderstood. | |
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| I have been missing your. . . | |
| Posted by: | buzzie 10:49 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - krebsman 09:47 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| . . .wicked humour. Keep it up. b | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | LegitOnce 09:50 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - krebsman 09:47 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| "What is it YOU can not face?" "What is IT you can not face?" It's the Tallulah Bankhead "Acting is Easy" version of "The Sound of Music." | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | Thom915 (thom915@aol.com) 10:07 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - LegitOnce 09:50 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Laura Benanti is magnificent though as though she is living in that time period is aware of her character and what she is thinking at the moment all with appropiate subtlety yet well communicated. | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | PlayWiz 11:07 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - Thom915 10:07 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I love the song "No Way to Stop It" and Ms. Benanti along with Audra were the two highlights of the show. Didn't care for Christian Borle's take on Max though -- it's a much more fun and vibrant role; he didn't really do very much with it, even with the additional two songs. | |
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| re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? | |
| Posted by: | skiver 11:02 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - Thom915 10:07 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| I agree. Laura was wonderful! | |
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| Uh, sure... | |
| Posted by: | bradmurf 10:23 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Did She Just Say "Goat Turds"? - Thom915 10:07 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| ....whatever you say. | |
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| re: Uh, sure... | |
| Posted by: | LegitOnce 10:28 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | Uh, sure... - bradmurf 10:23 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Well, she recovered with aplomb when that clod from the chorus stepped on her train. | |
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| re: Uh, sure... | |
| Posted by: | bradmurf 10:28 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Uh, sure... - LegitOnce 10:28 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Hilarious. | |
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| re: Uh, sure... | |
| Posted by: | PlayWiz 10:42 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Uh, sure... - bradmurf 10:28 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| Didn't Carrie sort of slip on the set briefly in her first scene as well? She did recover nicely though from that. | |
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| re: Uh, sure... | |
| Posted by: | bradmurf 10:47 pm EST 12/05/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Uh, sure... - PlayWiz 10:42 pm EST 12/05/13 |
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| It's nice that Carrie's parents are posting on the board tonight. | |
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