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| Posted by: | TGWW 04:09 pm EST 12/06/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Great show and performance - Chromolume 03:48 pm EST 12/06/13 |
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| But one doesn't know if they have the right chops if one doesn't have the balls to try. | |
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| Posted by: | bradmurf 09:48 pm EST 12/06/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Great show and performance - TGWW 04:09 pm EST 12/06/13 |
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| So we all have to suffer through a three-hour audition from an American Idol contestant (or winner, whatever), who wants to see if she has balls. Thanks. I'll pass next time. | |
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| Posted by: | TGWW 10:27 pm EST 12/06/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Great show and performance - bradmurf 09:48 pm EST 12/06/13 |
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| Suffer? I'm sorry, did I miss where it was mandatory viewing? If you are too stupid to change the channel if you weren't enjoying it, yeah, you deserved to suffer, But to tell an a artist not to try and grow because YOU might suffer, well that's just laughable. Pssstt, Carrie Underwood starred as Maria last night in "The Sound Of Music Live!" and the world is still turning. Imagine that. | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 06:59 pm EST 12/06/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Great show and performance - TGWW 04:09 pm EST 12/06/13 |
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| I'm defining "chops" in this case as not really being talent, but being experience/training/etc. True, Underwood the "rookie" could have surprised us with an untapped acting talent that we wouldn't have expected. But...she doesn't have those chops, and we knew she didn't. Add to that the fact that it's a supremely iconic role, and the performance is being telecast live - there was an incredible amount of pressure on Underwood to deliver - understood. I don't envy her in the least. But, this is exactly the kind of situation where experience and training can help overcome the pressure - that know-how on how to carry a stage performance - something, again, that Lansbury and Bailey had plenty of experience with. THEY weren't doing it on talent alone, and it should have been clear that it was going to be a long shot for Underwood to pull all aspects of this gig off. It could have happened, sure - anything can, lol. But I think we all know that realistically that was one big gamble. | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 12:31 am EST 12/07/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Great show and performance - Chromolume 06:59 pm EST 12/06/13 |
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| Lansbury didn't have much in the way of "know-how on how to carry a stage performance" when she did Mame, and she had never sung in any professional capacity before. That was a huge risk that paid off enormously well. But it might have ended up an only-okay experience, and I don't think anyone was sure which of the two it would be before the show opened. So taking a gamble on Lansbury was a good idea, and on Underwood a bad idea, based on what else besides hindsight? | |
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| Posted by: | will42 04:32 am EST 12/07/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Great show and performance - LegitOnce 12:31 am EST 12/07/13 |
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| Angela Lansbury has been a train singer her whole professional career. She sang at the Samovar Club in Montreal, at the age of 16 after being evacuated from London. While she was dubbed in some of her MGM films, she did her own singing in The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945), Till the Clouds Roll By (1947), and A Lawless Street (1955). As for her stage career before Mame she has appeared in Broadway’s Hotel Paradiso (1957), A Taste of Honey (1960), and of course Anyone Can Whistle (1964). | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 12:40 am EST 12/07/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Great show and performance - LegitOnce 12:31 am EST 12/07/13 |
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| and she had never sung in any professional capacity before. Anyone Can Whistle was 2 years prior to Mame (the show may not have been a success, but it was a big leading role with lots of singing), and she had also sung in some MGM films (The Harvey Girls, Till The Clouds Roll By...). Those weren't professional?? | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 12:45 am EST 12/07/13 |
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| She was dubbed in the Metro films, but, yes, of course Anyone Can Whistle. I am that one guy who wasn't at the closing night performance! Even with Anyone Can Whistle, though, Lansbury carrying a big Broadway show was a big risk. | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 12:47 am EST 12/07/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Great show and performance - LegitOnce 12:45 am EST 12/07/13 |
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| Ah - if she was dubbed in the films, I wasn't aware of that. ;-) | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 01:00 am EST 12/07/13 |
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| I'm relying on my memory again, but I think I heard Lansbury say in an interview once that she (like most everyone else) was dubbed in her Metro musical numbers. Certainly her song in The Harvey Girls doesn't sound anything like the Lansbury belt we know from her 1960s and 1970s work. | |
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