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| Posted by: | MikeR 03:33 pm EST 01/18/14 |
| In reply to: | I am guessing there will be ..... - jdm 03:15 pm EST 01/18/14 |
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| The movie only has five songs (six, if you include a reprise): Arabian Nights, One Jump Ahead, Friend Like Me, A Whole New World, and Prince Ali. So it's hard to imagine that the musical's score won't be at least 50% new. Alan Menken has written the music for the new songs, with lyrics by Chad Beguelin (who also wrote the book). I haven't been able to find a song list online. | |
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| re: I am guessing there will be ..... | |
| Posted by: | theaterbear 09:27 am EST 01/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I am guessing there will be ..... - MikeR 03:33 pm EST 01/18/14 |
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| Aladdin the film had a few side plots, characters (Aladdin's mother/friends) and themes dropped during development. One song, written for Jasmine, was later added to the stage version at Disney's California Adventure - are these originally cut songs considered part of the existing 50% as they were intended for the film? Even if they were ultimately cut? I've always been curious about that. It seems to me they would NOT be considered part of the new 50% because they were written specifically for the stage. | |
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| Wiki has a list | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 04:59 pm EST 01/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I am guessing there will be ..... - MikeR 03:33 pm EST 01/18/14 |
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| Not sure if it is current for broadway. Some of the songs were deleted from movie, so I'm not sure if that will be factored in the equation. | |
| Link | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_(2011_musical) |
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| re: Wiki has a list | |
| Posted by: | MikeR 06:22 pm EST 01/18/14 |
| In reply to: | Wiki has a list - dramedy 04:59 pm EST 01/18/14 |
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| Don't know why I didn't think to check Wikipedia. Thanks for the link. Yeah... at least two of those songs ("Proud of Your Boy" and "High Adventure") were written for the original film, but cut. I don't know if the Tony committee would consider those new or not. If those two plus the five that were in the movie are the only previously-existing songs, that leaves five Menken/Beguelin songs written for this production (assuming that the score doesn't change between now and opening night on Broadway). That looks like less than 50% new to me... but then again it's not my opinion that matters. | |
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| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 08:56 pm EST 01/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Wiki has a list - MikeR 06:22 pm EST 01/18/14 |
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| If the songs were written for the film - even if they weren't used in it - then they would not be eligible. I say that with about as much definitiveness as one ever can when discussing Tony rules. That being said, I don't think it will matter either way, based on the other shows this year. I'd say the four noms will be: If/Then Rocky Madison County Gentleman's Guide | |
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| I think that will indeed be the nominees ..... | |
| Posted by: | jdm 05:58 am EST 01/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Wiki has a list - Singapore/Fling 08:56 pm EST 01/18/14 |
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| I do not think Big Fish will make it nor Aladdin, and I am pretty sure that First Date does not have a chance. Jim | |
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| re: I think that will indeed be the nominees ..... | |
| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 09:12 am EST 01/19/14 |
| In reply to: | I think that will indeed be the nominees ..... - jdm 05:58 am EST 01/19/14 |
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| Are you certain Violet might not be considered eligible for best score? (trying to remember if any classic musical examples were-the show has never been on Broadway; other classic musicals have been eligible for best book, so I'm wondering if Violet might just make the cut for book and score. I know it seems strange, but stranger things have happened.) | |
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| re: I think that will indeed be the nominees ..... | |
| Posted by: | Ann 09:31 am EST 01/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I think that will indeed be the nominees ..... - bwaydiva1 09:12 am EST 01/19/14 |
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| Oh, they could do anything (protected by the "in its sole discretion" room-for-exception caveat) - and have ;) I wouldn't be surprised either - to find the score and/or the book eligible. Compared to Cinderella, the score is not that classic. Violet has been performed regionally, but I don't think it's been done a lot (I don't know if that's a consideration). For those who haven't seen it, here's the applicable paragraph from the (last season's) Tony Awards rules. It doesn't say anything about the score and book: 2(g) Classics. A play or musical that is determined by the Tony Awards Administration Committee (in its sole discretion) to be a “classic” or in the historical or popular repertoire shall not be eligible for an Award in the Best Play or Best Musical category but may be eligible in the appropriate Best Revival category, if any, provided it meets all other eligibility requirements set forth in these Rules. === There are also two questions on the eligibility application pertaining to the score: 2. Has the script or in the case of a musical the score, been previously produced in any manner that would suggest that it has become a “classic” or has entered into the historical or popular repertoire, regardless of whether it has previously played in what was then an “eligible Broadway theatre” as defined in the Tony Rules for the applicable season? Please check one: Yes_____ No_____ 3. Does the score for the Production contain only original music and lyrics written for this Production? If not, please approximate the percentage of material that is newly written for this Production and the percentage drawn from other sources: Newly Written ______% Drawn from other Sources _______% N/A (No Score)_______ | |
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| re: I think that will indeed be the nominees ..... | |
| Posted by: | mikem 03:28 pm EST 01/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I think that will indeed be the nominees ..... - Ann 09:31 am EST 01/19/14 |
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| The only classic shows that have had a Tony nom for Best Book are those for which the book was re-written. If Violet isn't being re-written, I'm pretty sure it will be nominated as revival and ineligible for book and score. (Of course, that's assuming that Tony categories are related to logic, which is a risky assumption.) | |
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