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Bullets must be in trouble

Posted by: John_Patti 11:58 am EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: MICHAEL RIEDEL TODAY: ‘Bullets Over Broadway’ on target to kill at Tonys - jesse21 06:57 am EDT 03/14/14

His columns get sadder and sadder, this isn't gossip or reportage. Interesting that it appears the same day a good review for Rocky appears in his paper.

I haven't heard anyone on either board rave about Bullets. Every other show has had its fans and detractors but this one is getting a real ... meh.


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Posted by: FrankF 12:24 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: Bullets must be in trouble - John_Patti 11:58 am EDT 03/14/14

That was my thought. Why was he writing a love letter to BULLETS... on the day the ROCKY reviews came out? This is awfully generous of the normally snippy Mr. Riedel. Hmmm.


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Posted by: MikeR 12:48 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - FrankF 12:24 pm EDT 03/14/14

I imagine that by the time he had his deadline for his column, the Rocky reviews had not yet been published.


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Posted by: WaymanWong 02:00 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - MikeR 12:48 pm EDT 03/14/14

True. But I imagine Riedel keeps in touch with his friends in the theater press; it couldn't be that hard for him to know the gist of what some of their ''Rocky'' reviews would be (let alone that of his Post colleague, Elisabeth Vincentelli).

(P.S. While nearly every set malfunction of ''Spider-Man'' was covered, the press largely gave a free pass to ''Rocky.'')


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Posted by: Chromolume 06:10 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - WaymanWong 02:00 pm EDT 03/14/14

(P.S. While nearly every set malfunction of ''Spider-Man'' was covered, the press largely gave a free pass to ''Rocky.'')

Did any of the Rocky malfunctions put actors in danger? (I don't remember hearing that - if so, pardon my intrusion.) Seems to me all of the Spider-Man malfunctions were potentially (if not actually) dangerous to the actors. I think that's a big difference. Any show can have technical issues - that's nothing new. Issues that are causing injuries and putting people in direct (and frequent) danger - that's a different story altogether.


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Posted by: ryhog 03:16 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - WaymanWong 02:00 pm EDT 03/14/14

I am quite surprised you think Riedel gets advance scoop on reviews from "friends." I also don't think your "rooting" characterization of the press on Spider-Man is accurate. Yes it was covered heavily-as one would expect for the most expensive show ever-but had it run like a Swiss watch THAT is what would have been covered. The bottom line on Riedel is that he does what gossip columnists have always done. It's not really that difficult a concept.


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Posted by: John_Patti 02:16 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - WaymanWong 02:00 pm EDT 03/14/14

But there was more to the Spiderman story, director run amok actors sent to the hospital. Wouldn't doubt if their own press agent spurred half of that on.


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Posted by: WaymanWong 02:33 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - John_Patti 02:16 pm EDT 03/14/14

Yes, and ''Spider-Man'' had a bazillion previews. But the press started covering that musical from the very first night.

I don't think ''Rocky'' faced the same intense glare. Nor do I think there were press rooting for its demise from Day 1.


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Posted by: enoch10 03:00 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - WaymanWong 02:33 pm EDT 03/14/14

the press started covering the story because there were stories to tell. ROCKY didn't have set malfunctions holding up performances for 30 minutes at a time or actors dangling from the sky and falling off the stage.

my sense is he's just telling the truth. he's hearing raves from friends. those quotes look pretty genuine to me, something i can't always say for reidel. he has to write about something. his bread and butter are shows in trouble. well, there's no blood in the water for him to smell right now.

clearly his attempt to generate a problem with his "is the woody allan controversy going to hurt ticket sales" piece didn't gain any traction (new york is still too smart for some things) so he's reduced to writing fluff pieces.

he'll be back to old self as soon as someone does something stupid which, luckily for him, occurs with alarming frequency.


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Posted by: Ann 02:43 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - WaymanWong 02:33 pm EDT 03/14/14

You're not saying the press killed Spider-Man the musical, are you? To me, it kept the show alive.

A few set malfunctions that happen during a one-month preview period, for a set-heavy show don't need to be focused on in reviews.


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Posted by: John_Patti 01:12 pm EDT 03/14/14
In reply to: re: Bullets must be in trouble - MikeR 12:48 pm EDT 03/14/14

Not that I would be looking for a column on Rocky reviews I just think this reeks of favoritism, publishing what is actually a scene by scene review, something he claims he doesn't do,on the day its competition's legitimate review appears.

The Rocky story would be next week where he would talk about the box office response to the reviews that's where he would add his snarky reviewer like comments.


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