| Oscar/Tony trivia question... will be valid in June | |
| Posted by: | SidL 07:00 pm EDT 03/14/14 |
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| with those reviews of "ROCKY" looks like it will be a rocky road (someone had to say it)during the awards season So I'm guessing the following trivia question will be good for another year. Question: Name the only Oscar Winning BEST PICTURE that was made into Broadway musical that took home the top prize of BEST MUSICAL at the Tony Awards Answer: "Applause" based on the BEST PICTURE "All About Eve" Musicals GRAND HOTEL and PROMISES,PROMISES were also based on Oscar winning movies - nominated but did not win BEST MUSICAL | |
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| It's not based on the movie. | |
| Posted by: | Michael_212 03:04 am EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | Oscar/Tony trivia question... will be valid in June - SidL 07:00 pm EDT 03/14/14 |
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| Applause is not based on All About Eve. The rights were not available. It's based on Mary Orr's short story The Wisdom of Eve. | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 06:01 am EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | It's not based on the movie. - Michael_212 03:04 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| The Applause situation is perhaps a bit more ambiguous. The credits say, "Based on the film 'All About Eve' and the original story by Mary Orr." The producer did not have the rights to the film when the writing started. Comden and Green came on board in May 1969, replacing Sidney Michaels. At that time they were told that the production had the rights to the story and a "limited amount" of the film script. They weren't really sure what that meant, but they were told that they couldn't use any character in the film who was not in the story. Which meant no Addison DeWitt. Late in the summer of 1969 they were told that full rights to the film had been obtained, but by that time they'd written two drafts without Addison DeWitt. They left it that way, partly because they thought that a producer made more sense than a critic as the character who'd have power over Eve. Never having read the story, I don't know how much of the musical comes only from the film. I do think we can say, as we can with A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, that there would have been no musical without the film. | |
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| Posted by: | SidL 12:56 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: It's not based on the movie. - AlanScott 06:01 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| "Applause" takes place in the present as did "All About Eve" Did the Comden & Green version take place in the fifties ?- which would have made it more of a period piece along the lines of ALW Sunset Boulevard | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 12:32 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: It's not based on the movie. - AlanScott 06:01 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| At that time they were told that the production had the rights to the story and a "limited amount" of the film script. Ergo the "Fasten Your Seat Belts" number -- or did that phrase originate in the original story? ;-) | |
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| Posted by: | dramedy 10:56 pm EDT 03/14/14 |
| In reply to: | Oscar/Tony trivia question... will be valid in June - SidL 07:00 pm EDT 03/14/14 |
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| Won best picture and musical. Technically they are based on an event Hamlet won best picture and the lion king is loosely based on hamlet. So sound of music and my fair lady were the only two that won both awards for musical version. | |
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| Posted by: | SidL 02:36 am EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | Titanic - dramedy 10:56 pm EDT 03/14/14 |
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| HAMLET is in the trivia books for being the first foreign produced film to win BEST PICTURE Since the characters of Jack & Rose don't appear in the Broadway Musical it is safe to say the film or musical have nothing to do each other.. nice try,though | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 12:29 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - SidL 02:36 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| Since the characters of Jack & Rose don't appear in the Broadway Musical it is safe to say the film or musical have nothing to do each other.. More to the point -- since the characters of Jack and Rose are the huge main focus of the film, and yet they are not in the musical... | |
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| Posted by: | SidL 01:01 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - Chromolume 12:29 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| and there is no framing device with Old Rose | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 01:08 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - SidL 01:01 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| Though, the musical's framing device (Thomas Andrews' opening piece repeated by the company - survivors and deceased - at the end of the show) is a brilliant device of its own. What I've really always felt is that, while Jack and Rose are the main characters of the film, the main character of the musical, in a way, is the ship itself. | |
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| Posted by: | Ann 01:43 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - Chromolume 01:08 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| It is, and we all know going in what's going to happen to that main character (which is, in my opinion, a big problem with the musical, but the score is luscious). | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 01:48 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - Ann 01:43 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| Yes, but I think there are plenty of shows like that - especially, obviously, those based on historical events. We all know how 1776 will turn out, but that has never stopped me (and others) from thoroughly embracing the ride the show takes us on. We also know that Leo Frank is going to get convicted and eventually murdered, but that doesn't stop us from loving that show either. If you're saying that the journey Titanic takes us on is not as compelling as, say, 1776, I have no argument there. I love both shows, but there's no comparison - 1776 gives us more of a rollercoaster to ride. But still, knowing the inevitable end of a story has never stopped me from loving the journey of a show - as long as there IS one, lol. | |
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| Posted by: | Ann 01:55 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - Chromolume 01:48 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| Yes, that's what I'm saying. What we see in 1776 is (for most) something new, and compelling. It almost feels like you don't know how it's going to turn out. And Parade depicts a much more obscure-or-is-little-known story. Honestly, I think a lot of people don't know Leo Frank is going to be convicted and hanged (tree or no tree). Not History 101 like the Declaration of Independence and the iconic RMS Titanic. | |
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| Parade | |
| Posted by: | Chazwaza 06:22 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - Ann 01:55 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| But Parade isn't about whether or not Leo is hanged... that is the main thrust of the plot, but the heart of the story and what the show is about is what happens to Leo and Lucille from before the murder up to when his terrible fate is finally enacted. And it's of course about many other things as well, politics, community, class, etc. But that's why I think Parade works... because it working as a show doesn't depend on you not knowing whether or not he is hanged. Also, I remember when I saw it, even though they cut away and don't show you what happens in Leo's office when Mary comes up to get her check, and even though I had the very strong impression that Leo was definitely innocent, the writing of the court room sequence (and the 5 or so songs that make it up) was so strong that I was almost convinced he might have done it... and still, through act 2 I was sure he didn't of course, when the finale sequence happens and we finally see the scene in his office and we see Mary say "Happy Memorial Day" and walk out, and we hear Lucille sing "And you're finally...." (Mary dialogue, exit) "Free..." I am so relieved. It's a beautifully written show. | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 02:09 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - Ann 01:55 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| And Parade depicts a much more obscure-or-is-little-known story. Honestly, I think a lot of people don't know Leo Frank is going to be convicted and hanged (tree or no tree). Not History 101 like the Declaration of Independence and the iconic RMS Titanic. True - but some people will know that story, of course. What is certainly true is that there are no absolutes in any of this. ;-) | |
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| Maybe the revival next season should add those characters | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 12:54 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Titanic - Chromolume 12:29 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| You gotta have gimmick. | |
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| FORBIDDEN BROADWAY already did! | |
| Posted by: | showtunetrivia 03:09 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | Maybe the revival next season should add those characters - dramedy 12:54 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| In one of my very favorite bits, Mrs. Strauss encounters Leo, from the side of the ship where there's a "movie goin' on" and realizes she's Kate Winslet. Then he teaches her how to spit big loonies. :) Laura | |
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| re: Maybe the revival next season should add those characters | |
| Posted by: | SidL 01:58 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | Maybe the revival next season should add those characters - dramedy 12:54 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| don't put it past someone to attempt to bring the film version to Broadway someday | |
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| re: Maybe the revival next season should add those characters | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 02:29 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Maybe the revival next season should add those characters - SidL 01:58 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| Or, following the footsteps of The Addams Family, Shrek, and Rocky, I won't be surprised when we get a production with "My Heart Will Go On" added in, even though that would be a horrid thing to do. ;-) | |
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| ???? nmi | |
| Posted by: | garyd 01:33 am EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | Titanic - dramedy 10:56 pm EDT 03/14/14 |
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