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| Posted by: | TGWW 06:15 am EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | ROCKY - An Alternate View - enoch10 03:32 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| 'it's ROCKY. it's based on a pretty middlebrow property. i don't remember any critical acclaim for the film either though to be honest i wasn't paying that much attention." Any critical acclaim? Well according to an ad in the December 13 1976 edition of the Village Voice. Gene Shallit of NBC says "Rocky Is One of The Best Movies Of The Year" and Kathleen Carroll of The New York Daily News awarded "Rocky" Four Stars (Highest Rating). Not to mention the 10 Academy Award nominations with 3 wins including Best Picture or The Golden Globe Best Picture or Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award for Best Picture. Does that count? | |
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| Posted by: | MikeR 02:07 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - TGWW 06:15 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| Yes, Rocky won the Best Picture Oscar, beating All The President's Men, Network, Taxi Driver, and Bound for Glory. It also won Best Director (and Film Editing), and was nominated for original screenplay (along with four acting nominations, sound, and song). The endless sequels made Rocky a punchline, but the original was pretty highly regarded - although there were, of course, critics who didn't think as mcuh of it (Vincent Canby comes to mind). | |
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| Posted by: | Epenthesis 10:43 am EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - TGWW 06:15 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| Oy. Three minutes on Wikipedia before expounding on a topic you know nothing about--that's all the internet asks of you, and some people still fall short. | |
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| Posted by: | TGWW 12:51 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - Epenthesis 10:43 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| 'a topic you know nothing about" Sweetie, I was a NY movie theater manager for twenty years before working behind the scenes on Broadway shows. I might know a thing or two, but thanks for playing. | |
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| Posted by: | enoch10 01:22 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - TGWW 12:51 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| who said anything about attendance in a cinema? i was talking about critical reception - the kind we had been discussing re: brantley. not the same thing. at all. | |
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| Posted by: | TGWW 03:01 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - enoch10 01:22 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| I wasn't talking to you. I was answering Epenthesis. | |
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| Posted by: | enoch10 04:33 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - TGWW 03:01 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| i though you wrote this: >> Any critical acclaim? Well according to an ad in the December 13 1976 edition of the Village Voice. Gene Shallit of NBC says "Rocky Is One of The Best Movies Of The Year" and Kathleen Carroll of The New York Daily News awarded "Rocky" Four Stars (Highest Rating). Not to mention the 10 Academy Award nominations with 3 wins including Best Picture or The Golden Globe Best Picture or Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award for Best Picture. Does that count? not talking about awards. not talking about how many butts it put in the seats in cinemas. i was talking about critical reception. | |
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| Posted by: | TGWW 09:13 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - enoch10 04:33 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| And I provided you with TWO notable NY critic's opinions direct from a NY newspaper ad. Pay attention. Rotten Tomatoes wasn't in existence then, but they have compiled reviews of the time and "Rocky" receives a 92% positive. And too bad if you don't consider TWO Best Picture Awards better than any critic's view. | |
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| Posted by: | enoch10 11:39 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - TGWW 09:13 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| pay attention to what? since someone else had noted that gene shalit was pretty much the definition of "middlebrow" i didn't feel the need to repeat an observation that had already been made twice. of course one man's middle is another man's peak. | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 06:22 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - enoch10 04:33 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| I may be wrong but I think the critical reception was mostly favorable and was very favorable in some quarters. Winning the Los Angeles Film Critics Award for best picture suggests that at least some critics liked it a lot. | |
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| Posted by: | enoch10 12:06 am EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - AlanScott 06:22 pm EDT 03/15/14 |
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| i'll attend to this once i have sufficiently recovered, assuming of course i ever do, (and that such a recovery is even possible - i have my doubts) from the emotional turmoil inflicted by a cruel, senseless, dare i say abusive post about a revival of FOLLIES which raised my heart - all too briefly - only to then dash my dreams until they resembled josette after hurling herself onto the jagged, craggy, rocks in the turbulent waves crashing beneath the peak of widow's hill. oh, josette and i, we know from heartbreak. | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 07:02 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - enoch10 12:06 am EDT 03/16/14 |
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| Oh, dear. Now I'm trying to cast Follies with members of the Dark Shadows cast, several of whom, of course, were known for musicals. And one of whom famously played Sally a long time later. | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 08:55 am EDT 03/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ROCKY - An Alternate View - TGWW 06:15 am EDT 03/15/14 |
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| Gene Shalit is the definition of "middlebrow." | |
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