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| Posted by: | AlanScott 05:29 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - Michael_Portantiere 02:00 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| "Yes, unfortunately, the person who wrote the music for the opera writes the kind of music that some critics admire but that no one else wants to hear." I want to hear it. James Levine seems to like it. Some prominent musicians seem to like it because they play it. People used to say stuff like this about Mahler and Bartok. | |
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| re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 05:40 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - AlanScott 05:29 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| I was employing hyperbole to make a point :-) That said, I really don't think this opera or Wuorinen's music will stand the test of time. And in my opinion, there's no comparison to Mahler and Bartok whatsoever -- even though I realize you meant in terms of the reception of the music rather than quality. | |
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| re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 08:30 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - Michael_Portantiere 05:40 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| The more apt comparison might be Jason Robert Brown. Outside of a small clique, the hyperbolic "no one" wants to hear his extant oeuvre, and it is at least as reasonable to say his music will not stand the test of time. | |
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| re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 10:46 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - ryhog 08:30 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| I completely disagree. Although there's no way of knowing for sure, I suspect that Jason Robert Brown's music will stand the test of time far, far better than Charles Wuorinen's. | |
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| re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 09:04 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - ryhog 08:30 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| The more apt comparison might be Jason Robert Brown. Outside of a small clique, the hyperbolic "no one" wants to hear his extant oeuvre, and it is at least as reasonable to say his music will not stand the test of time. Ok - I'm curious. What musical theatre composers today do you feel DO get a good response outside of this small clique - composers whose musical theatre scores WILl stand the test of time? | |
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| re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 09:30 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - Chromolume 09:04 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| The tougher question would be if you add "under 80." As asked though, I guess I'd say Sondheim, Kander, Herman. Maybe a couple more out there if I think harder, but I think you can see the problem. Reluctantly, probably Schwartz and Menken, and maybe Shaiman and Lopez. Here is another way of asking approximately the same question: if you approach someone who isn't "into" musical theatre the way a lot of folks here are to name a JRB song, or even identify it if they hear it (without being pegged to him) what would it be? My intention is not to pick on JRB per se, but to examine the prospects of these composers vis a vis someone like Charles Wuorinen. | |
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| re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:37 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - ryhog 09:30 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| Seems to me like we all had a similar discussion a few weeks ago. ;-) | |
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| re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 06:34 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - Michael_Portantiere 05:40 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| "That said, I really don't think this opera or Wuorinen's music will stand the test of time." — Michael Portantiere "A life-long devotion is measured after the fact." — Dr. Sloper in both Washington Square and The Heiress. (I hope that quoting Dr. Sloper is not as bad as Alan Simpson quoting Iago.) "And in my opinion, there's no comparison to Mahler and Bartok whatsoever . . . " — Michael Portantiere Clearly. ". . .even though I realize you meant in terms of the reception of the music rather than quality." Both perhaps. | |
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| For some reason, I thought you had heard it... | |
| Posted by: | garyd 05:39 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Jason Robert Brown should have adapted BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN instead of BRIDGES... - AlanScott 05:29 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| I thought I had posted the webcast sight here and we discussed it but I guess not. We saw it opening night. I admit I am not a fan of his style of music but I found this to be particularly dry. | |
| Link | http://www.medici.tv/#!/brokeback-mountain-wuorinen-teatro-real-madrid-titus-engel-ivo-van-hove |
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| re: For some reason, I thought you had heard it... | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 06:41 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
| In reply to: | For some reason, I thought you had heard it... - garyd 05:39 pm EDT 03/16/14 |
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| Someone posted the webcast here and we did discuss it. I thought it was terrific. Sorry that you didn't like it more. But I presume you didn't make the trip primarily to see it (although perhaps you did). | |
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