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re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly.

Posted by: AverageBwayNut 12:12 pm EDT 03/17/14
In reply to: re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly. - enoch10 11:49 pm EDT 03/16/14

Yep, I did go all the way in and I saw nothing resembling what you're describing.

If what you saw earlier shows what was actually sold, then you're right that they're facing issues with that many unsold seats.

If what you saw earlier was a glitch and what shows NOW is correct, though, I'm not sure how you can say definitively that they're doing massive holdbacks. It could also mean the seats are simply sold. I understand your inclination to presume the most cynical/capitalistic/nefarious interpretation, but if it was indeed a glitch, there's no way for us John/Jane Q. Publics to know definitively what it means.

Time will tell, I guess. I do wish them well. I'm a very big fan of the show.


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re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly.

Posted by: enoch10 03:15 pm EDT 03/17/14
In reply to: re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly. - AverageBwayNut 12:12 pm EDT 03/17/14

it looked to me like there were two blocks. they're selling the back block first - typical. swinish, but typical.

i really do think there was a glitch and i saw what has actually been solid for the 10:00 show that night. the tickets that were grayed out were the typical seats that would be held back for any performance and, more convincingly, the other seats that had been sold were scattered including a couple that looked like 3 seat sales. like i said, all total 10% couldn't have been sold. i'm sure they'll be long gone before 10 may but i have to wonder if (and i guess it's a big "if", i don't know) they do extend we won't see prices drop - from ungodly to just painful at least.


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re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly.

Posted by: ryhog 12:25 pm EDT 03/17/14
In reply to: re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly. - AverageBwayNut 12:12 pm EDT 03/17/14

with a show like this, I think there is a bet hedging that may make sense. I think there is a part of the audience that is waiting to see how NPH is before buying, and if there are some of these seats that could be sold at premium, they do not want to sell them at the regular price. Figuring they will be sell-able at that price later on. Could it be a miscalculation? Sure. Could it be brilliant? Sure. That's why it is a bet.


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re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly.

Posted by: enoch10 03:33 pm EDT 03/17/14
In reply to: re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly. - ryhog 12:25 pm EDT 03/17/14

i don't there's any doubt that's what they're doing. the sad thing is it is probably a bet that will pay off.

even if the production starts out with bad word of mouth, which i kinda doubt will happen but you never know, if it is a genuinely limited engagement you'll have enough industry folks and their hanger ons and the i've-got-to-see-everything-and-i-have-the-money-to-do-it crowd to scoop up most of these tickets at premium prices.

i will say this, though. if i can't get myself in any other way i'm not as doubtful as i was that my usual procedure of getting an unsold premium ticket for normal full price on the day of show won't work and that's the only reason i was a looking anyway.

if world of mouth generates even more of a buzz that won't work.

I'm more interested in seeing what the older manhattan money folks who tend to be first in line for any "event" are going to think. i was talking to the spouse about this and he reminded me they didn't have any problem with AMERICAN IDIOT and HEDWIG is a far superior piece to that in pretty much every way in my book.

we'll see.


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re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly.

Posted by: ryhog 04:08 pm EDT 03/17/14
In reply to: re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly. - enoch10 03:33 pm EDT 03/17/14

If NPH's performance becomes a must-see in this, then the combination of him and the show will send this into the ionosphere. If not, the prices may come down to the stratosphere.

Regarding the "older manhattan money folks" - two points. First, the limos lined up on Jane Street. Second, it is worth remembering that today's older manhattan money crowd came of age at a different time than the stereotypical one. The rock and roll and the drag queen don't send them packing. Hard as it may be to believe, Hedwig takes place over a generation ago, and JCM turned 50 last year.


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re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly.

Posted by: enoch10 04:46 pm EDT 03/17/14
In reply to: re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly. - ryhog 04:08 pm EDT 03/17/14

i don't remember any limos at jane street or at the squeezebox. honestly, i don't. and i was at jane street a lot. fried but there. i remember celebrities showing up toward the end but they were mostly younger and not the kind to be pulling up in limos.

i'm sure the limo folks came in some number but when i think of those audiences those aren't the folks i remember. they're crowded out by more colorful characters, some doing colorful things.

it's not the 50 year old whippersnappers i'm talking about. it's their parents with either a) their faces surgically pulled so taut it's a marvel they can blink or b) the kind you have to wonder what exactly it is they're doing with their mistresses or c) both. there is still a pretty sizable contingent of what was once referred to as the blue-haired matinee ladies with tons of money and they show up for things, especially event type things with movie stars, on a consistent basis. but, as i said, that demographic either enjoyed AMERICAN IDIOT or didn't dislike it vocally enough to do it any damage. and, i guess, if they're walking into something about botched sex change they aren't expecting THE STUDENT PRINCE.

now if you will excuse me i have to go do penance for ageism now.


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re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly.

Posted by: ryhog 05:08 pm EDT 03/17/14
In reply to: re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly. - enoch10 04:46 pm EDT 03/17/14

I wasn't talking about the 50 year olds; I meant the 65-70 year olds who are still younger than most of the singers referenced in the show. One of the big errors some folk make is in not realizing/accepting that the grayer generation is not as old as we used to think. :-) If someone is 70, remember they were 20 when the Beatles arrived. The monied crowd for Broadway shows is not the 90 year olds who were alive when Student Prince premiered.


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re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly.

Posted by: enoch10 05:59 pm EDT 03/17/14
In reply to: re: Aren't The HEDWIG Tix Outrageously Expensive? A: Not particularly. - ryhog 05:08 pm EDT 03/17/14

>> If someone is 70, remember they were 20 when the Beatles arrived.

well, can't argue with the math.


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