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| Posted by: | enoch10 01:45 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - ryhog 08:16 pm EDT 03/17/14 |
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| another thing to keep in mind is that it's not like folks aren't writing original musicals. those kids coming out of mfa programs, the majority of them aren't there to musicalize ROCKY. they're writing great, original, brave material no one, certainly no one on b'way, wants to touch because it doesn't come with a built in franchise. besides the fact that there's just too many of them - most of them boring - this is what i object to most about this endless parade of movies to musicals. the producers of if/then should be dancing on the aisles because of this piece. if i was them i'd make copies and paper the theater district with them. | |
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| re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 02:02 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - enoch10 01:45 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
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| What we see on Broadway is a cautionary tale for what you are saying about emerging writers. Do you think the folks who wrote Parade, Lucky Stiff, Once on this Island etc have "progressed" to writing Bridges and Rocky? What's happened is that they decided to lean to the green. I agree If/Then stands in stark contrast. If only people thought/think it was/is good, the would indeed have cause for celebration. | |
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| re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? | |
| Posted by: | enoch10 02:09 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - ryhog 02:02 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
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| >>If only people thought/think it was/is good, the would indeed have cause for celebration. i've thought from the beginning that IF/THEN bombs it won't exactly help the cause of original musicals on b'way. not that it's fair they should have to shoulder that kind of responsibility. if these endless threads that seem to start in july about who will win the tony are in any way correct and IF/THEN is considered a wildcard i hope - even if (maybe especially if) it's a bomb - the fact that it's an original work gets factored in and does it some favors. | |
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| re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 04:40 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - enoch10 02:09 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
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| I understand everything you are saying and yet, as one of my wisest mentors tried to teach me, the cream really does rise to the top. I think you can have 10 shows that "prove" that new original musicals suck/are too risky/etc or 10 jukebox musicals that "prove" they connote the end of civilization, but it only takes one to disprove any theory. So I don't worry so much about the significance of If/Then or any other specific show. | |
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| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 03:09 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - enoch10 02:09 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
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| If you want to look on the bright side: The creative team for IF/THEN is the same as the team for NEXT TO NORMAL, one of very few recent shows to prove it's still possible to have a Broadway success with an entirely original musical. | |
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| Posted by: | ryhog 04:44 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - Michael_Portantiere 03:09 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
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| I have to reserve judgment on the show, but I am happy that Yorkey and Kitt have not yet succumbed to the same temptations we are seeing from Brown, Flaherty and Ahrens this season. Will it remain thus? (It didn't for the aforementioned.) Do they have the talent to reach beyond their one hit wonder? We shall see. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 04:54 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - ryhog 04:44 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
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| I don't care if someone 'succumbs to the temptations' of adapting a film (heck Sondheim did that) as long as it's good. Original doesn't always mean GOOD. And this is NOT good in my humble opinion. | |
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| Posted by: | ryhog 05:29 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - bwaydiva1 04:54 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
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| If it is not clear from what I have written, let me restate it: I have no issue with film adaptations. It is the cheap exploitation I have been consistently referring to and that are the "brain dead" specie. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 04:39 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Daily Beast: Is Broadway Brain-Dead? - Michael_Portantiere 03:09 pm EDT 03/18/14 |
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| I take it you haven't seen If/Then yet. I think this is really inferior to next to normal in the material, the book and the score. Next to normal took YEARS to develop. If/Then feels like it was slapped together and brought to Broadway in a haste. I usually love the music of Kitt and Yorkey but I really didn't like If/Then at all. (The lyrics were particularly atrocious.) I'm not convinced If/Then is the savior of the original musical. | |
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