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when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"?

Posted by: Glitter 06:32 am EDT 03/19/14
In reply to: Adam Shankman to Direct HBO Film Chronicling Life of GYPSY's 'Mama Rose' - Ballerina56 11:39 pm EDT 03/18/14

I'm with Arthur Laurents on this one.....I'd love to know!


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re: when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"?

Posted by: MikeR 11:00 am EDT 03/19/14
In reply to: when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"? - Glitter 06:32 am EDT 03/19/14

Not sure when or how Mama (or Momma) Rose entered the vernacular. The film, however, will (rightly) be called Madame Rose.


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re: when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"?

Posted by: dlevy 02:41 pm EDT 03/19/14
In reply to: re: when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"? - MikeR 11:00 am EDT 03/19/14

In the original NY Times review, Brooks Atkinson refers to her as both "Mrs. Rose" and "Mother Rose."

I seem to remember that one of the other reviews of the original referred to Momma Rose, but I can't locate the reference at the moment.


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re: when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"?

Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 04:02 pm EDT 03/19/14
In reply to: re: when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"? - dlevy 02:41 pm EDT 03/19/14

It probably came about because in the show, Rose is called Mama (or Momma...not sure how the script spells it) by her daughters.

She also refers to herself as Mama in "Rose's Turn."

I find the the use of the title MADAME ROSE interesting because when spelled with an "e" at the end, as it is here, it's correctly pronounced in the French way "Muh-DOM."

In every production of the show I've ever seen, it's been pronounced in the English/American way "Mad-um," which is spelled "Madam." Again, I have no idea how it is spelled in the script.

So if we're going for the traditional pronunciation, this movie should be called MADAM ROSE.

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re: when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"?

Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 04:19 pm EDT 03/19/14
In reply to: re: when did she begin to be referred to "Mama Rose"? - JereNYC 04:02 pm EDT 03/19/14

It's pretty much implied in the play that Rose doesn't have a whole lot of formal education. She bills her act as "Madame Rose ..." but pronounces it "Mad-um"


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