| re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:52 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... - MikeR 08:57 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
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| I've always understood the Freudian symbolism behind the same actor playing Mr. Darling and Captain Hook, but tradition or not, I suppose there's no earth-shattering reason why the roles can't be played by different men. BUT - again, it's easy to see the reasoning behind Mr. Darling and Hook being doubled. I see no reason at all why Mr. Darling would "become" Smee instead. I'd rather see Borle play one role or the other (he'd be a funny Smee, except I'd rather see an older actor), and have no doubling at all. If you lose the connection between Darling and Hook, the guy playing Darling might as well play the 3rd Indian from the left for all it's worth. There's no point. However, if they ARE going to make changes to the traditional musical, I do think Liza should stay home the way she does in the original. There's absolutely no reason for her to be in Neverland at all - save for the fact that originally of course she was Mary Martin's daughter, lol. Her little Act II ballet is totally superfluous, and the "Crow" reprise at the end is just crossover filler. (As is the ballet, for that matter.) | |
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| re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... | |
| Posted by: | Thom915 (Thom915@aol.com) 10:36 am EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... - Chromolume 10:52 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
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| If they are filler then it is important for what purpose. Filler for set changes are probably not needed, for costume or other changes probably are still needed in a live broadcast. | |
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| re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... | |
| Posted by: | MockingbirdGirl 10:45 am EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... - Thom915 10:36 am EDT 08/07/14 |
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| If there are commercial breaks, you won't need filler for costume changes, either. | |
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| re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:46 am EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... - MockingbirdGirl 10:45 am EDT 08/07/14 |
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| Very true. | |
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| re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:44 am EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... - Thom915 10:36 am EDT 08/07/14 |
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| The Liza "ballet" is just to cover a set change, to the "path in the woods" scene. The "Crow" reprise (which of course also includes the victory procession in after Hook's death and Peter leading everyone through a chorus of "Crow" before the eventual duet with Liza) cavers the set change back to the Darling house, though in a traditional production it also helps cover the costume change from Hook to Mr. Darling. | |
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| Liza is in this too? | |
| Posted by: | Alcindoro 10:14 am EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... - Chromolume 10:52 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
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| As the crocodile, maybe? | |
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| re: Liza is in this too? | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:28 am EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | Liza is in this too? - Alcindoro 10:14 am EDT 08/07/14 |
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| Liza always has been - in the musical version. | |
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| re: Liza is in this too? | |
| Posted by: | Teacher64 02:14 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Liza is in this too? - Chromolume 10:28 am EDT 08/07/14 |
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| There has always been a Liza but not necessarily a dancing Liza who goes to Neverland. That was exclusively for the Mary Martin version. Liza did not go to Neverland with Sandy Duncan or with Cathy Rigby. | |
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| re: Liza is in this too? | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 03:41 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Liza is in this too? - Teacher64 02:14 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| Yes - I had forgotten that (having only done the licenced Martin version a number of times, lol). Though the Crow duet was still in the Rigby version (with Michael instead of Liza). | |
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| re: Liza is in this too? | |
| Posted by: | Teacher64 06:47 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Liza is in this too? - Chromolume 03:41 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| Same as in the Duncan version; she did the "Crow" reprise with Michael Darling. | |
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| Um, I think Alcindoro was joking... | |
| Posted by: | Cleveland 04:17 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Liza is in this too? - Chromolume 03:41 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| ...referring to Ms. Minnelli. Though the ensuing discussion was interesting. | |
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| re: Um, I think Alcindoro was joking... | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 05:06 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | Um, I think Alcindoro was joking... - Cleveland 04:17 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| lol...yup, the possible reference to Ms. Minelli went straight over my head. Ah, well...;-) | |
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| I was wondering ... | |
| Posted by: | Alcindoro 11:08 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Um, I think Alcindoro was joking... - Chromolume 05:06 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| ... just how long it would take SOMEONE to figure this one out. You guys are really getting slow. | |
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| re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... | |
| Posted by: | lordofspeech 11:09 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... - Chromolume 10:52 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
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| I don't like it. Mr. Darling should be Hook. The mythic underpinnings of this story are not to be messed with! If I ruled the world.... | |
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| ...."every day would be the first day of Spring" !! | |
| Posted by: | bwaynut 11:16 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Christian Borle cast in NBC's PETER PAN as Mr. Darling and... - lordofspeech 11:09 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
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| Oh, sorry, that's Harry Secombe. Wrong show -- silly me !! | |
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