| Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 01:17 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | Side Show final song… - Solberg 06:04 pm EDT 08/06/14 |
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| That's probably half of the marriages in the u.s.! I never had a problem with the song because if lfelt that it wasn't meant to be literal separation. | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | TheatreAddict 02:34 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - dramedy 01:17 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| I think this thread is so interesting that people got so wrapped up in that lyric. I just always assumed and took it that they were comforting each other at the end saying that although there isn't much in the world you can count on, you can always count on me being there for you... we have been joined together from birth and I'm there for you always, like it or not. So I don't think it's meant to be funny or ironic...just them stating the reality of their situation for better or for worse. Sort of sweet, right? T.A. | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | writerkev 03:08 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - TheatreAddict 02:34 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| I find it interesting, too. In fact, I'm amazed that so many theatre lovers here are so literal-minded. Of course the line is meant as irony, and it has deeper meanings than the literal. | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | AnyaS 04:25 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - writerkev 03:08 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| Me too. When I read about some people snickering in the theater during that song, it makes me wonder what other inappropriate things they guffaw at. Yeah, I used the word guffaw. It really fits in this case. | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | chrisampm 04:47 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - AnyaS 04:25 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| And why does guffaw really fit in this case? It's not the same as snickering. So what inappropriate things would a snickerer guffaw at? | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | AnyaS 07:50 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - chrisampm 04:47 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| Here's the example I was thinking of when I wrote that initial post but was too lazy to pack meat on the sentence because I was posting from a cell phone. My friend used to hate going to see plays or movies with her ex. At a dinner gathering once, she claimed several people frowned at him during a performance of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? when he laughed inappropriately. He argued that he snickered but didn't laugh. When she said, "Fair enough but you laughed loudly during Saving Private Ryan." He answered sheepishly, "Yeah but it was nervous laughter." They have since divorced. Whenever she has a date with a new guy, I jokingly ask her if he guffaws or merely smiles or twitters or snickers. | |
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| Posted by: | sf 04:04 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - writerkev 03:08 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| What's deep about the lyrics of "I Will Never Leave You"? They're Hallmark-card doggerel. That's why they're so funny - they are thuddingly banal and obvious. | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | sf 02:34 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - dramedy 01:17 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| There are plenty of ways of expressing that thought *without* using a phrase that's potentially hysterically funny when applied to a pair of Siamese twins. | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | JohnPopa 03:20 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - sf 02:34 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| I also think since the song is so earnest that it makes the potential campiness of the lyric stick out more. The characters are oblivious to the double meaning which should be obvious to them too. I think it makes it a bit sillier. I don't think the people here poking fun at the lyric really think it's meant literally. | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | ashleylm 03:49 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - JohnPopa 03:20 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| The characters are oblivious to the double meaning which should be obvious to them too. I think it makes it a bit sillier. I don't think the people here poking fun at the lyric really think it's meant literally Indeed. Speaking as someone who couldn't get past that lyric in the original production (which, at the time, I only knew through the OCR), it's not that I think it's meant literally (one sister explaining to the other what is crashingly obvious), it's that it could be taken literally, since it's also completely true, and it's gut-bustingly funny the moment your mind goes there. Which, for many of us, is almost instantly. Even worse, not only is the literal meaning true, the literal meaning is the central problem of the show! That uncomfortable juxtaposition is what bothers me most--I enjoy a good double entendre, but not when the meanings are at odds with each other. So it's good that I will never leave you, but it's extraordinarily unfortunate that I will never leave you. How wonderful that I will remain by your side, but how dreadful that I will remain by your side. Over, and over again throughout the entire song ... cognitive dissonance! Compare to Wicked, where the multiple meanings of "for good" are consistently appropriate. The same sentiment could have been conveyed with something like: "I will always love you, every hour of every day, we were meant to share each moment, beside you I'll be glad to stay" or some such thing. Not immortal words, but it avoids the hilarity. | |
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| re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there | |
| Posted by: | writerkev 03:30 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Isn't there emotionally leaving someone that is still physically there - JohnPopa 03:20 pm EDT 08/07/14 |
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| Sure sounds like some people are taking it literally... The original poster says "I mean--they are Siamese Twins and all--how could they leave each other? It's not like surgery to separate them was an option." | |
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