| FINDING NEVERLAND confirmed for B'way in March | |
| Posted by: | MockingbirdGirl 03:12 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| “Finding Neverland,” a new musical based on the 2004 film about the “Peter Pan” playwright J. M. Barrie, will begin performances on Broadway in March, a spokesman for the show’s producer, Harvey Weinstein, said on Wednesday... The spokesman, Rick Miramontez, said that the musical would run on Broadway at a theater owned by the Nederlander Organization, but he declined to confirm a specific one. | |
| Link | ‘Finding Neverland’ to Come to Broadway in March |
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| I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 11:47 am EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | FINDING NEVERLAND confirmed for B'way in March - MockingbirdGirl 03:12 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Isn't that odd? Do we think there is going to be another major change in the creative team??? For the record, the credit on the A.R.T. website is "Book by James Graham." | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 12:04 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - Michael_Portantiere 11:47 am EDT 08/14/14 |
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| I think you are reading more into it than warranted. My guess is that it was not deemed newsworthy, just as there was also no mention of the designers. | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 12:20 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - ryhog 12:04 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
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| I was mostly joking :-) I think you're right, but I still find it odd for an article about a new musical to state who wrote the songs but not mention who wrote the book, especially in the case of a show that has had major changes in the creative team. | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | mikem 12:32 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - Michael_Portantiere 12:20 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
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| It's a little strange, but not much different than referring to a Sondheim musical without mentioning the bookwriter, which happens pretty often. And Neverland's bookwriter has little name recognition in the US. | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 01:04 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - mikem 12:32 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
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| It is also worth considering that Harvey may well be paying the bookwriter in the fashion of screenwriters, and that he is not considered important. The whole Sondheim bookwriter thing is really about Sondheim wanting to show respect for his collaborators. Whether, in a given show, the bookwriter is critical creatively is not static. Oftentimes it is the director driving the book, or even the songwriters. It is interesting that one would not be surprised that the orchestrator is not mentioned, even though the contribution may in some cases loom very large. | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 02:27 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - ryhog 01:04 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
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| "It is interesting that one would not be surprised that the orchestrator is not mentioned, even though the contribution may in some cases loom very large." Well, yes, but in the case of a new musical, I think it's generally considered that the writing of the songs and the book is a greater and more newsworthy contribution than the orchestrations. I do agree with the poster who suggested the reason why James Graham, the book writer of NEVERLAND, was not mentioned in the Times article is that he has very little name recognition in the U.S., but I guess I'd say the fact that he's a relatively low profile figure is in itself somewhat newsworthy. | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 05:41 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - Michael_Portantiere 02:27 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
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| my only point is that, sometimes, the orchestrations are a greater contribution than in others, and sometimes the book is of a lesser contribution than in other cases, and that, just as there are shows where the orchestrator is deservedly discussed front and center, so too there can be shows where the book writer's contribution is little more than clerical. | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 12:10 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - ryhog 05:41 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
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| I absolutely agree, but in the case of FINDING NEVERLAND (for example), I would say the sheer fact that a non-musical film is being adapted as a stage musical would have to mean that the book writer's contribution is far more than clerical, even if it's a very close adaptation. | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 01:18 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - Michael_Portantiere 12:10 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
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| Having not seen it, I can't say. There are, however, situations where someone other than the bookwriter (whether the original source or the director) has assumed the laboring oar, just as there are situations where an orchestrator gets a well thought out and fully formed score and is really just going through the paces, whereas there are other cases (take Mel Brooks as an example) where the task is quite a bit mire significant. In between there are cases where an orchestration makes a decent score into a monumental one. Not sure any of this relates to this particular show, but there are so many cases where credit is not always due where the opening night credits would suggest. | |
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| re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical | |
| Posted by: | lowwriter 12:31 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I just noticed that this article doesn't mention who wrote the book for the musical - Michael_Portantiere 12:20 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
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| I just listened to Julien Overden singing one of the songs from the first version in the UK and I really liked it. Though I like Jeremy Jordan in the show, it's a shame Overden isn't coming over here to do the Broadway version. I hope Harvey keeps him in mind for another project. | |
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| re: FINDING NEVERLAND confirmed for B'way in March | |
| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 04:42 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | FINDING NEVERLAND confirmed for B'way in March - MockingbirdGirl 03:12 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| I can't say I'm surprised that it's transferring. I can say I thought it'd be the Winter Garden. It could be headed to the Marquis. | |
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| Then they'd probably announce the theater | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 06:33 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: FINDING NEVERLAND confirmed for B'way in March - bwaydiva1 04:42 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| They are probably waiting for a smaller nederlander house to open up than marquis. | |
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| re: Then they'd probably announce the theater | |
| Posted by: | dlevy 10:54 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | Then they'd probably announce the theater - dramedy 06:33 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| The article implies they're hoping for the St. James if Side Show doesn't make it. I could imagine them pouncing on the Rodgers if that were to open up as well. | |
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| st james is owned by jujamacyn | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 11:57 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Then they'd probably announce the theater - dlevy 10:54 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| The article says nederlander theater. | |
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| thats nederlander owned theater | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 11:58 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | st james is owned by jujamacyn - dramedy 11:57 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Honeymoon will play a few years. | |
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| re: thats nederlander owned theater | |
| Posted by: | huskyital (huskyital@yahoo.com) 07:54 am EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | thats nederlander owned theater - dramedy 11:58 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Really? Did you see it? The book of HONEYMOON makes the books of BULLETS OVER BROADWAY and ROCKY look like MY FAIR LADY. | |
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| re: thats nederlander owned theater | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 10:59 am EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: thats nederlander owned theater - huskyital 07:54 am EDT 08/14/14 |
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| "The book of HONEYMOON makes the books of BULLETS OVER BROADWAY and ROCKY look like MY FAIR LADY." I strongly disagree. | |
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| I thought honeymoon was terrific | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 10:51 am EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: thats nederlander owned theater - huskyital 07:54 am EDT 08/14/14 |
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| I saw it in papermill matinee. The score was fun and breezy. I'm glad danza is staying with it since he was the perfect gangster--lovable even though you don't want him to win over love. I saw fun home that night and didn't care for the show. I disliked rocky--bad score and charmless performances. That's my opinion. I liked bullets. I was entertained and I love tap dancing, so that's a big plus. I wouldn't see it again though. I'll see honeymoon again. | |
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| re: I thought honeymoon was terrific | |
| Posted by: | lowwriter 12:34 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | I thought honeymoon was terrific - dramedy 10:51 am EDT 08/14/14 |
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| I just spoke to someone who hated Honeymoon! I want to see it but I was surprised to hear such a reaction. I liked Rocky much more than Bullets. I thought Andy Karl was great and Margo Seibert was fine, though she has a lot more going for her than the role allowed. I didn't hate Bullets but I did feel it was a complete waste of my time. | |
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| I saw rocky in previews | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 01:36 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I thought honeymoon was terrific - lowwriter 12:34 pm EDT 08/14/14 |
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| So maybe Karl improved by opening. I found him a charmless imitation of Stallone. But many have posted how great he is, so he might have found his character. I felt the show was a waste of time including the 20 minute slow motion boxing fight. Like i said, I love tap and I liked most of the songs used in bullets and I laughed a lot. So I was entertained. It could have been better and over the top like producers or Book of Mormon , but I still enjoyed it. | |
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| re: I thought honeymoon was terrific | |
| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 11:05 am EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | I thought honeymoon was terrific - dramedy 10:51 am EDT 08/14/14 |
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| Oh I really didn't like Rocky at all. That score was terrible. (I saw it before they cut "Philly Pie" but that was the least of the score's problems!) | |
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| So not the winter garden | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 03:28 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | FINDING NEVERLAND confirmed for B'way in March - MockingbirdGirl 03:12 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| It wouldn't be the marquis since that is vacant in the spring. I guess it would be current running show like Rodgers with if/then or Simon if last ship flops. I wonder what will get winter garden now. | |
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| Posted by: | writerkev 03:54 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | So not the winter garden - dramedy 03:28 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| what do you mean it wouldn't be the Marquis since that is vacant in the spring? | |
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| They could announce it now instead of waiting | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 03:56 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: So not the winter garden - writerkev 03:54 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Usually they wait for a show to post a closing notice before announcing the next show. I didn't word it well in my initial post | |
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| re: They could announce it now instead of waiting | |
| Posted by: | NewsGuy 09:36 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | They could announce it now instead of waiting - dramedy 03:56 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| They could but since theater news sites such as Playbill, Broadway World, etc. are not capable of doing anything more than just copying and pasting press releases, why let all the cats out of the bag at once? Let 'em rip 'n read anything you send them. | |
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| What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through | |
| Posted by: | Esther 03:31 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | So not the winter garden - dramedy 03:28 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| January 31st. | |
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| And brook atkinson is probably too small | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 03:46 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through - Esther 03:31 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| But maybe not. I'm just guessing that love letters will extend as long as they get stars rotating through. It's one set, two actors two scripts and a desk and chairs for props. The shows weekly cost is probably $200k plus star percentages of gross. Very cheap to run. I'd love to see it with brad Pitt and Jennifer Anniston. Not sure if Jolie would approve of that casting. | |
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| re: What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through | |
| Posted by: | wsxblue 03:37 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through - Esther 03:31 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Love Letters has switched theaters - and Nederlander will now host HONEYMOON IN VEGAS, and LOVE LETTERS at the Brooks | |
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| Thanks- hopefully Ticketmaster will be updated soon | |
| Posted by: | Esther 03:52 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through - wsxblue 03:37 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| I knew they switched, but didn't remember where either show had been originally booked. | |
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| re: What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through | |
| Posted by: | writerkev 03:36 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through - Esther 03:31 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Nederlander if going to "Honeymoon in Vegas." There was a switcheroo. "Love Letters" going to the Atkinson. | |
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| Ah, I knew there was a switch announced, so I mistakenly assumed | |
| Posted by: | Esther 03:49 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through - writerkev 03:36 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Ticketmaster's current listing was up-to-date. I didn't remember where either show was originally scheduled. Thanks | |
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| For some reason they are waiting until Friday to update ticketmaster | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 03:54 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | Ah, I knew there was a switch announced, so I mistakenly assumed - Esther 03:49 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| The seating of both theaters is similar, but still, I pick,seats based on theaters sometimes. | |
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| I understand; I do the same thing at times. | |
| Posted by: | Esther 04:19 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | For some reason they are waiting until Friday to update ticketmaster - dramedy 03:54 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Heck, when I find an ideal seat in a particular theater, I try buying it the next time I go there. I know I did that with the Golden prior to the remodel. There was a seat in Row C I made sure I got for The Normal Heart. | |
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| The Atkinson, then. | |
| Posted by: | MikeR 03:47 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: What about the Nederlander Love Letters is only cast & selling through - writerkev 03:36 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Seems the obvious choice, unless Love Letters proves a smash (and they can line up more stars to do it). | |
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| I wonder how big the show is | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 03:51 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | The Atkinson, then. - MikeR 03:47 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| If it's pippin size ( both art productions), then Atkins probably would work. And Jeremy Jordan (who looks sooooo hot in that beard) and Laura Kelley are probably not a box office draws that a larger house would warrant. | |
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| Posted by: | MikeR 03:56 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | I wonder how big the show is - dramedy 03:51 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| It's playing in a 540 seat theater in Cambridge. I'm having a hard time imagining that the stage space at ART is significantly larger than the space at the Atkinson. | |
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| Posted by: | whereismikeyfl 05:06 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I wonder how big the show is - MikeR 03:56 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| ART's stage is huge. It is larger than most B'way houses. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 09:59 am EDT 08/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I wonder how big the show is - whereismikeyfl 05:06 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| I still wonder if it'll take the Simon if The Last Ship doesn't do well. (Avoiding silly puns here.) | |
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| Posted by: | FrenchDip 04:48 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I wonder how big the show is - MikeR 03:56 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Can't comment on Finding Neverland as I haven't seen it yet, but All the Way had to be scaled down to fit in the Neil Simon where the stage is not as wide or as deep as ART. | |
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| But nonprofit tryout don't always equate to broadway size theater | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 04:01 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I wonder how big the show is - MikeR 03:56 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| There's hardly any nonprofits even close to small broadway houses. American idiot went to st James. And even music box pippin is in twice the size of art. Old globe is pretty small and many shows like dirty rotten scoundrel went to big houses like imperial. I don't think you can assume a one to one correlation based on pre broadway tryout in some cases. | |
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| re: But nonprofit tryout don't always equate to broadway size theater | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 04:17 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | But nonprofit tryout don't always equate to broadway size theater - dramedy 04:01 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| I believe they're talking about the size of the stage house, not the house house. | |
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| I was surprised that honeymoon was going to atkinson originally | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 04:24 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: But nonprofit tryout don't always equate to broadway size theater - Michael_Portantiere 04:17 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| The papermill production was large and I didn't think it would fit at atkinson, which is one reason they are switching to nederlander. I just don't know if there are a lot of scene changes in finding neverland that can be just pushed on stage or scrim drop that are acceptable at nonprofit that would be cheap looking on broadway stage and require more space for better quality/looking set. I haven't seen the show. | |
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| re: I was surprised that honeymoon was going to atkinson originally | |
| Posted by: | Teacher64 04:41 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| I don't remember anything "large" about the physical design of FINDING NEVERLAND. If I remember correctly, the set consisted of a collage of images, a clock, a theater curtain and a tree. Actually, now that I think about it, the physical design was not all that impressive. I would think it would have to change in order to work in a large Broadway house. | |
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| re: I was surprised that honeymoon was going to atkinson originally | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 04:33 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | I was surprised that honeymoon was going to atkinson originally - dramedy 04:24 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| I see what you mean, but I really doubt they would have announced for the Atkinson if they didn't think the production would work on the stage there :-) | |
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| re: But nonprofit tryout don't always equate to broadway size theater | |
| Posted by: | MikeR 04:11 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | But nonprofit tryout don't always equate to broadway size theater - dramedy 04:01 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| But if it fits in a small theater, then I don't think you can say "x theater on Broadway is probably too small for the show." Of course they can always scale up if they want to, but that's not the same as the theater being too small. | |
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| My original,post did say " or maybe not". | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 04:17 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: But nonprofit tryout don't always equate to broadway size theater - MikeR 04:11 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| Posted by: | pitslre 03:53 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
| In reply to: | I wonder how big the show is - dramedy 03:51 pm EDT 08/13/14 |
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| It's not a particularly huge physical show. I actually think a large house would kill it. | |
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