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| Posted by: | Scott6263 12:14 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Chromolume 12:07 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
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| "ITW" is 27 years old. That's a long time. Still not known by the masses. Doubtful "ITW" will ever be considered a classic like those. Whatever happens with the film (and I do hope it succeeds), it won't do any more for it's reputation than the film versions of "Sweeney Todd", "Nine" or "Jersey Boys" did for those shows. | |
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| Posted by: | Chazwaza 12:39 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Scott6263 12:14 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
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| But IT IS KNOWN BY MANY MASSES. Perhaps not "THE masses" that you seem to insist include all people. But name be 10 musicals written after 1970 that are known to the masses. -Les Miserables, perhaps the most popular musical ever written, ran forever, and currently running and recently made into a big movie -Phantom of the Opera... same -Cats, because of bad reputation and long long run on Broadway -Miss Saigon maybe... ...and... what? -Wicked... that might be it, and Wicked isn't something everyone's heard of for good reason either. Maybe The Producers. And Book of Mormon maybe. Monster monster hits, and 4 of the 7 I just listed are currently running. Into the Woods is one of the few that people do actually know the name of from the past 30 years who didn't see it on Broadway. Also, Sound of Music, West Side Story, and Grease have not only been around for many more decades, they are also three of the most popular musicals and movie musicals OF ALL TIME. Of course 99% of the population is going to have heard of them. The fact that you are here comparing Into the Woods to The Flower Drum Song as your argument makes me really think you're just unwilling to see the reality. No one is claiming Into the Woods is as beloved or popular as the obvious ones you listed. Nothing is. To be "beloved" you don't have to be at the level of Sound of Music and WSS or you're just not beloved. I'm not trying to argue that Assassins is "beloved"... but for a show that didn't even run 2 years originally, and a show that had no stars and no movie for the last 27 years, it is still one of the most performed and known of shows of the last 30 years, easily. If you don't think love of the show isn't part of that, then I think you're just refusing to acknowledge reality or you are arguing of semantics. | |
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| re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film | |
| Posted by: | Scott6263 12:47 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Chazwaza 12:39 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
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| And you are a pain in the a-s. See my above reply to you, Chazwaza. | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:44 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Scott6263 12:47 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
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| And you are a pain in the a-s ...and this is the immature way people respond when they really don't have a valid point to make and just can't deal with the fact that someone disagrees with them for solid reasons. Debate is healthy. Calling someone names because they don't agree with your opinions is cowardly and troll-like. It would have been nice if this could have been a debate. You just made it clear you're not interested in discussion, just in being negative. Too bad. | |
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| Posted by: | Scott6263 09:24 am EDT 08/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Chromolume 10:44 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
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| I was having a debate with you. He chimed in as always with his snarky, nasty comments. You're defending him? Typical. I was doing fine with you. I guess you're just as much of a PITA as he is. | |
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| Posted by: | Chazwaza 04:30 pm EDT 08/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Scott6263 09:24 am EDT 08/16/14 |
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| I'm not sure I've ever read a more childish post on this board, which is saying a lot. You don't get to decide you're having a private debate in a public forum in the middle of a thread everyone would be interested, and perhaps knowledgable, about. And nothing I said was snarky and certainly not nasty, not compared to what you write. I'm sorry you can't handle someone disagreeing with you and providing solid reasons for that. If you're so shaken by such things perhaps a public theater forum is not the healthiest place for you. | |
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| re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film | |
| Posted by: | Scott6263 09:18 am EDT 08/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Chazwaza 04:30 pm EDT 08/16/14 |
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| Once again, you prove my point. You are constantly snarky and childish with your email responses to anything re Sondheim. You do this repeatedly. I refuse to partake in one of your many so-called "solid points" when all you do is offer opinion as if it's fact and expect everyone to accept it. I would love nothing more than to have a healthy debate....but it's impossible with Sondheimites who have a "holier than thou" attitude in their approach. You should start your own "Sondheim" chat room so everyone agrees with you...that way, no fuss, no muss. | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:49 am EDT 08/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Scott6263 09:24 am EDT 08/16/14 |
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| As I said... | |
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| Posted by: | Scott6263 11:23 am EDT 08/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Chromolume 10:49 am EDT 08/16/14 |
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| Why don't you and Chazwaza start your own chat room called "Simply Sondheim" where only those (like you two) who think he walks on water and can do no wrong are permitted to offer opinions. That way, you won't get all offended when folks like me don't agree with you. Talk about immature..... | |
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| re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film | |
| Posted by: | Chazwaza 04:31 pm EDT 08/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Scott6263 11:23 am EDT 08/16/14 |
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| How does disagreeing with you on the popularity or public knowledge of the title of Into the Woods require someone who thinks "he walks on water"? This is just basic stuff, I would have said the same thing whether I love ITW or not. You're being utterly and bizarrely ridiculous here. | |
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| Posted by: | Scott6263 09:22 am EDT 08/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Chazwaza 04:31 pm EDT 08/16/14 |
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| Again, that word 'bizarre'. You like that word. You used it above completely inappropriately. I am not singling out ITW (notice no quotations). I can have a debate on ITW....with someone who is dealing in reality. You feel it's a beloved classic....I do not (as others feel). I can accept that. Can you? | |
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| Posted by: | TGWW 06:25 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - Scott6263 12:47 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
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| Scott, don't have a stroke. Sondheimites are insufferable. You can't love'em and you can't beat them with a rolled up Playbill from the sixteenth and final Broadway performance of "Merrily We Roll Along", although they would enjoy it. | |
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| re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film | |
| Posted by: | Scott6263 09:25 am EDT 08/16/14 |
| In reply to: | re: All those songs cut from INTO THE WOODS film - TGWW 06:25 pm EDT 08/15/14 |
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| That made my day! Thanks! :-) | |
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