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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: Chazwaza 04:27 am EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - bobby2 12:09 am EDT 09/12/14

I very distinctly remember the concept being put out there by someone involved with the production that it was never the original intention for Che to be specifically Guevara. Very distinctly.

But either way, yes, a very misguided and damaging directorial decision... one of many. I did not love this production at all.


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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: bobby2 06:05 am EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - Chazwaza 04:27 am EDT 09/12/14

you know. you just jogged my memory chazawaza.


I remember them saying that now too. what a dumb movie. Martin did pretty good with vocals. why erer they so afraid to let him act the role?


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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: mikem 10:40 am EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - bobby2 06:05 am EDT 09/12/14

Didn't someone mention that some of the original lyrics were very Che Guevara - specific? Something about insecticide? That seemed to make it clear that the original concept was that Che, the character, was based on Che Guevara, the actual person.


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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: JAllenC3 11:28 am EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - mikem 10:40 am EDT 09/12/14

Yes, the concept album referenced the insecticide throughout.

And while we don't learn a ton about who Che is in the show, there are a lot of little seeds of it throughout.

"or just a man who grew and saw from 17 to 24" - Che, which was his actual age during the Peron regime.

"whip up your hate in some tottering state but not here dear" - Eva

From the concept album:
"I always thought my country right or wrong / I used to say here's where I belong / but that's a joke I might as well have been / as loyal to Afghanistan, the south of the France, Japan, Hong Kong" - Che... in fact Tim Rice wrote once about how he intentionally left Cuba off that list because he thought it was too on the nose.

I've always seen the show as a hypothetical flashback where we follow Che as he wonders what the outcome of the Peron regime had been if he had been involved politically. And then it's going through these events in his head that eventually lead him to the decision to go off and become "Che Guevara."

None of that is in the text certainly, but it's a fascinating approach for the actor playing Che to take which makes him more than just a "device" as someone said elsewhere in the thread.


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