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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: Chazwaza 12:15 pm EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - allineedisthegirl 09:52 am EDT 09/12/14

Yes, he is a device... but it's very important to the piece about Eva that the device be Che and not "everyman"... what he represents as a character and a device enrich the piece and are an integral part of the concept, as far as I'm concerned. And as it turns out, Che has become a symbol to the world, not a person, so it works even better that the show takes that and uses it for their purpose.


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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: allineedisthegirl 02:16 pm EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - Chazwaza 12:15 pm EDT 09/12/14

Totally agree with you on the larger point -- that having Che narrate and filter the events of EVITA is much more effective than using "everyman."

What I don't agree with is citing a playwright's stated intention as PROOF that something or other is actually in a play. For that you have to look at the play, not what is said about it.

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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: Chazwaza 03:13 pm EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - allineedisthegirl 02:16 pm EDT 09/12/14

I suppose that's true... I don't have the text of the original Evita. I guess he should have said "Che, dressed in the iconic revolutionary garb, representing Che Guevara, who indeed this character is in a symbolic way, for the purpose of this play." But beyond stating that it is THAT Che, I don't think the play needs to use any specifics about him nor do we need to learn anything about him in the play. Just as I can have a play where Adolf Hitler (dressed as such) and Anne Frank (dressed as such) engage in a comedy of manners and never once refer to anything about their actual lives, and have it intended to be symbolic... and that won't make them any less those people in my play.


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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: allineedisthegirl 03:24 pm EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - Chazwaza 03:13 pm EDT 09/12/14

Wow. You're taking this to a ridiculous extreme.

But I'll bite.

But if you put someone dressed as Hitler in a comedy of manners as you describe, no you don't necessarily have Hitler as a character in "your" play; you do have a guy dressed as Hitler though.

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re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara...

Posted by: Chazwaza 06:39 pm EDT 09/12/14
In reply to: re: If there was any question about Che in Evita being Che Guevara... - allineedisthegirl 03:24 pm EDT 09/12/14

Ha. Yes, I am. It's fun.

But there's a big difference between the character BEING Hitler but taken out of the reality of his historical reality, and a character who is a man dressed as Hitler.


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