| "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage | |
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| Posted by: | bwayjoey 04:05 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Commercial theater producers have yanked the rights. See link below. | |
| Link | American Psycho |
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| re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage | |
| Posted by: | wmdmcree 05:07 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwayjoey 04:05 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| I saw it in London and liked it a lot, even though there is work to be done - no surprise for a new musical. 75% of the audience was under thirty - not a bad demographic. I'm not sure Ben has the drawing power Matt displayed in London, but he's a great choice for the part and it could a big step up in his career, making him one of the really big names on B'way and maybe elsewhere. I hope this change is because they have been working on it and think it is ready. I certainly hope it doesn't disappear from our shores. | |
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| re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage | |
| Posted by: | buskins 02:51 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwayjoey 04:05 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| I don't think Broadway is ready for this show. It may never be. | |
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| Posted by: | enoch10 12:37 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - buskins 02:51 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| i dont know if ready is the right word but i'm certainly not interested - not without matt smith. | |
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| Any recent precedents for this? | |
| Posted by: | MockingbirdGirl 05:16 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwayjoey 04:05 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| I'm drawing a blank on instances of commercial producers stopping an OB production in this fashion. | |
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| re: Any recent precedents for this? | |
| Posted by: | NYCscribe 11:33 am EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | Any recent precedents for this? - MockingbirdGirl 05:16 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| I believe "Chinglish" and "Motherfucker with the Hat" were both supposed to be done at the Public and got pulled as well. I was a member and they were included in the season brochures and the following year, they were on Broadway instead of downtown. The Public never really explained this to the members, they just gave a discount, which wasn't any better than the regular discounts. I only remember this because those two shows were the reasons I became a member each of those years! Wonder how the Second Stage subscribers are handling this? | |
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| re: Any recent precedents for this? | |
| Posted by: | barberg 05:50 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | Any recent precedents for this? - MockingbirdGirl 05:16 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Something similar happened to Second Stage with "Farragut North," which was cancelled when Mike Nichols wanted to do it on Broadway with Jake Gyllenhaal. That production never happened, and eventually the play was done off-Broadway at the Atlantic. | |
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| Book of Mormon n/m | |
| Posted by: | JAllenC3 05:29 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | Any recent precedents for this? - MockingbirdGirl 05:16 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| re: Book of Mormon n/m | |
| Posted by: | MikeR 05:49 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | Book of Mormon n/m - JAllenC3 05:29 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Book of Mormon was going to open off-Broadway, but that was thwarted by commercial producers? I have no memory of this. | |
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| New York Theatre Workshop. (NM) | |
| Posted by: | Seth Christenfeld (tabula-rasa@verizon.net) 07:19 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Book of Mormon n/m - MikeR 05:49 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Seth, brochure and all | |
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| re: New York Theatre Workshop. (NM) | |
| Posted by: | MikeR 07:23 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | New York Theatre Workshop. (NM) - Seth Christenfeld 07:19 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| And now that I had better terms to Google, here's an article about it from the Times (May 13, 2011). | |
| Link | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/15/theater/theaterspecial/the-path-of-the-book-of-mormon-to-broadway.html?pagewanted=1&ref=theater# |
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| re: New York Theatre Workshop. (NM) | |
| Posted by: | MikeR 07:21 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | New York Theatre Workshop. (NM) - Seth Christenfeld 07:19 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Wow. No memory of that whatsoever. Thanks for the info, all. | |
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| re: Book of Mormon n/m | |
| Posted by: | JAllenC3 07:06 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Book of Mormon n/m - MikeR 05:49 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| I could have sworn it was originally slated as part of a non-profit season (I want to say Playwrights Horizons), but the decision was made to open cold on Broadway instead. But now I can't find any evidence of this so I retract my statement until I do. | |
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| You are correct | |
| Posted by: | AC126748 07:18 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Book of Mormon n/m - JAllenC3 07:06 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| It was originally programmed by NYTW | |
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| re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage | |
| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 04:51 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwayjoey 04:05 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| And the Tony for best musical goes to...American PSYCHO!!!!!!!!! I bet it has the Hayes (I'm guessing Rock of Ages will shutter in January). | |
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| Posted by: | NewsGuy 07:50 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:51 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Interesting - I didn't think Rock of Ages is struggling along - or is it? What about the Longacre? With Forum not coming in and a theater now being available, it's possible things got "bumped along the chain" and this thing could come into a house and open cold on Broadway. | |
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| I heard "Dames At Sea" was next up for the Helen Hayes. PERFECT FIT! nm | |
| Posted by: | MichaelAS 05:00 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:51 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| nm | |
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| re: I heard "Dames At Sea" was next up for the Helen Hayes. PERFECT FIT! nm | |
| Posted by: | TheHarveyBoy 06:58 am EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | I heard "Dames At Sea" was next up for the Helen Hayes. PERFECT FIT! nm - MichaelAS 05:00 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Actually, doesn't Second Stage still have the option to buy the Helen Hayes when ROCK OF AGES closes? It's my understanding that once ROA closes, the clock starts ticking again and Second Stage will have X number of months to come up with the rest of the $30 Million purchase price or lose their deposit. So it would be ironic if AMERICAN PSYCHO opens there after abandoning Second Stage. | |
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| re: I heard "Dames At Sea" was next up for the Helen Hayes. PERFECT FIT! nm | |
| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 05:14 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I heard "Dames At Sea" was next up for the Helen Hayes. PERFECT FIT! nm - TheHarveyBoy 06:58 am EDT 09/13/14 |
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| I could see it going into the Jacobs if Once closes (which could well happen). | |
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| re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage | |
| Posted by: | Pir8Jenny 04:59 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:51 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| I think it's a mistake to open this thing cold on Broadway. I saw it in London, and thought it had potential, but needed work. A lot of work. I can understand not wanting to open off-Broadway, but I'd totally do an out-of-town run before bringing it in. | |
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| re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage | |
| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 12:48 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Pir8Jenny 04:59 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Not to mention that even if they get this thing perfect, it's a very tough sell, in terms of subject matter, tone, world view, etc. If this does indeed come straight to Broadway, well, it'll be a wonderfully crazy year for odd musicals about unexpected subject matter. But they have their work cut out for them to build an audience. I do wonder if there is a different story behind all this, but we'll just have to see what happens in the next few months. | |
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| I imagine the same was said for Sweeney Todd... | |
| Posted by: | Chazwaza 06:39 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Singapore/Fling 12:48 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| among others. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 04:15 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Singapore/Fling 12:48 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| PS-I don't like the masochism and violence portrayed. However, I think it's going to win. It will get another dynamic into the theater. (Again-I kind of don't want to see it because I don't support how it portrays women and violence against them.) Fun Home should've moved last season. Its time is past. I wouldn't be surprised if THEY canceled-and American Pscyho takes the Circle. | |
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| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 04:50 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:15 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| Win what? The Tony? Based on what criteria? I'm not even convinced it will open, and no one is yet convinced it will be any good, not to mention the whole it's September thing and nothing has opened yet that will actually be in the running. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 04:53 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Singapore/Fling 04:50 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| It's a daring musical that will bring in a non-traditional audience (male, straight, young). I think a lot works in its favor, my own opinion of the source material notwithstanding. | |
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| Posted by: | larry13 05:19 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:53 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| The same "non-traditional audience(male, straight, young)" that made BLOODY, BLOODY ANDREW JACKSON the last Broadway hit for Benjamin Walker? | |
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| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 12:45 am EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - larry13 05:19 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| It's also the audience that the "Rocky" producers thought would come in droves. I also remember when we thought that "Rocky" would be a major contender for awards. Neither happened. And "Rocky" is a heartwarming story. Someone mentioned "Sweeney Todd", which has a moderate amount of gore, but there is also a high melodrama and multiple tender love stories running through it. "American Psycho" is a narcissistic murderer who brutally slaughters woman on his streak of nihilistic mayhem and madness. The main character is so reprehensible that it inspired his author to write a follow-up book in which he (Brett Easton Ellis) was haunted by the character he created. If they can sell it to Wall Street financiers as a loving self-portrait at $500 a seat, they might just pull off the greatest piece of pop-art and cultural commentary ever created and run for years. But I don't know if the people who love the source material are the people who go to musicals. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 05:23 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - larry13 05:19 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| This is a lot more mainstream than that-the book and film are popular. | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 07:04 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 05:23 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| In fact, the movie was something of a disappointment at the box office. | |
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| Posted by: | MikeR 04:21 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:15 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| Could you please tell us what's going to win all the Tonys in 2057? It's NEVER too early* to start speculating! *It's often too early. | |
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| Posted by: | Ann 04:19 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:15 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| Wait - I thought Fun Home was going to winn all the Tonys. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 04:51 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Ann 04:19 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| I think its time passed. I say that in sadness and yet with an awareness of how fickle and in the moment this business is. They should cancel. I say American Psycho, Finding Neverland and perhaps The Last Ship will overshadow it, picking up steam in the awards leading up to the Tonys. There is a time for everything and Fun Home is passe now. | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 07:02 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:51 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| Fun Home should cancel because three musicals that so far have all had decidedly mixed receptions are coming to Broadway? Actually, we're really not sure yet that American Psycho will come to Broadway. Dozens of award-winning hit shows and classics would have canceled if the creators and producers thought that way. And Mr. President would have won the best musical Tony because every other musical that was considering coming in would have canceled rather than compete with a show that was certain to be a monster hit. | |
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| Posted by: | enoch10 12:43 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - AlanScott 07:02 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| >> Actually, we're really not sure yet that American Psycho will come to Broadway. well that's no reason not to announce that it's already better than everything else that hasn't opened or even announced it's coming now is it??? the award for best choreography has already been announced why not the tony for best musical as well? | |
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| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 06:37 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - enoch10 12:43 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| It's a shame this forum isn't archived, so we could see who (if anyone) was accurately calling "Gentleman's Guide" the winner nine months in advance. | |
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| Posted by: | MikeR 06:45 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:51 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| And honestly, they should cancel their engagement because you think their time has passed? What hubris! Everyone pack it in! bwaydiva1 has spoken! | |
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| Posted by: | MikeR 06:44 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - bwaydiva1 04:51 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| This just underscores how ridiculous it is to be making these predictions before most of these shows have played a single performance. You were certain Fun Home would win all the awards, then one tiny little thing changed and now you're certain it won't. How many more things will change between now and the actual awards? God, I wish people could wait until shows actually opened before handicapping their awards prospects. Even then is too early, but at least it would be based on some semblance of reality. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 10:39 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - MikeR 06:44 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| It's a bu$ine$$ and there is only so much room for certain kinds of shows. And from what I've seen, American Psycho has a lot of selling power. How much will change? Couldn't say! (Although it seems to me the season is pretty well established now. The only thing we're sitting on is the official announcements for American Psycho and the theater for Finding Neverland (pretty sure it's the Lunt-Fontanne) as well as the official announcement of Bring Up the Bodies/Wolf Hall for the Winter Garden. I guess we're sort of waiting on Gigi (which I'm guessing is next fall) and Can-Can (no idea) But for new stuff it's pretty well established.) | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 04:13 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Singapore/Fling 12:48 pm EDT 09/13/14 |
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| If this happens, the nominees will be: American Psycho An American in Paris Finding Neverland The Last Ship | |
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| re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage | |
| Posted by: | Ann 07:42 am EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Pir8Jenny 04:59 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| Isn't London an out of town run? | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 08:24 am EDT 09/13/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Ann 07:42 am EDT 09/13/14 |
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| Yes and the reviews weren't stellar. Also, an American audience has yet to see this. | |
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| Posted by: | dchesnut 05:01 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - Pir8Jenny 04:59 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| i agree. the show was very MeSsY at the Almeida. If something that remotely resembles the Almeida production opens cold on Broadway, it will be slaughtered. | |
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| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 05:10 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
| In reply to: | re: "Amercan Psycho" cancelled at Second Stage - dchesnut 05:01 pm EDT 09/12/14 |
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| That never $topped anyone before. | |
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