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| Posted by: | enoch10 11:48 am EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - ryhog 02:31 am EDT 09/14/14 |
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| i don't know. i saw him with gavin creel in provincetown a couple of weeks ago and gavin creel started to say something, looked to him and said "is is ok to mention this?", he said "yes, it's definite" and gavin creel announced DISASTER was coming to broadway. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 12:13 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - enoch10 11:48 am EDT 09/14/14 |
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| if it were definite, seth would not be schlepping investor packets to Cali. I liked the show, and have no desire to rain on its parade, but I think that definite in the creator's mind and in reality are not always the same thing. Hence the term aspirational. were it to come in at some point, someone is likely to lose big, and that licensing potential that I agree with you about will have a hard time overcoming the loss. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | Kimmelhisway 05:06 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - ryhog 12:13 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| And how many times was Yank definite. Several as I recall, at least according to those involved. And yet. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 06:14 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - Kimmelhisway 05:06 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| and not, mind you, for any lack of enthusiasm on the part of the creatives. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | Kimmelhisway 07:26 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - ryhog 06:14 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| Exactly. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | enoch10 12:26 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - ryhog 12:13 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| so, mr know all and see all - what are you going to say if it comes in? are you somehow the authority on the current state of this show? is there some reason why your opinion should hold more sway than seth rudetsky's in this matter? what access to data do you have that he doesn't? | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 02:47 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - enoch10 12:26 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| I've never pretended to know all. If anything, I have frequently pointed out that no one does. I do see an awful lot, but not all. I did see this, and liked it, which is saying a lot since I abhor the venue where I saw it. If it comes in, I will say what I said in the post above-that someone is likely to lose a lot of money, with no reasonable path to making it back. I've never claimed to be an authority on the current state of the show and no one's opinion should hold more sway than anyone else's-Seth included. His opinion is of course colored by self interest whereas mine is obviously based on my impression of what I saw, which may be different from what the show will be. I respect what he has done, and wish him well, but that does not mean that I can be less than objective in assessing it. There is someone who announces every single day a plan to bring their "baby" to Broadway. They are all optimistic and enthusiastic, as they should be. You can't evaluate a show based on the creator's enthusiasm for it. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | enoch10 12:58 pm EDT 09/15/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - ryhog 02:47 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| i wasn't basing it on his enthusiasm for it i was basing on him saying it was going to happen (actually, allowing creel to say it was going to happen) and i believe he's in a better position to say than you are. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | NeoAdamite 12:50 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - enoch10 12:26 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| so, mr know all and see all - what are you going to say if it comes in? He never said it couldn't come in, only that it was unlikely. Shows are often announced as 'Broadway bound' with this much assurance, and few actually open. Generally I don't have much confidence in such statements (even for shows I like) until a theater has been booked. I haven't seen this show, and so have no opinion regarding its Broadway prospects. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 01:26 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - NeoAdamite 12:50 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| "...until a theater has been booked" And even then, it's not a done deal until it begins previews. (Rebecca? Had a theater with a marquee, and look what happened there. I'm sure there are other examples.) Seth has a lot of influential friends and I'm thinking he'll bring his show to Broadway. I think it could be a lot of fun. | |
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| Gavin Creel ... | |
| Posted by: | enoch10 12:04 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - enoch10 11:48 am EDT 09/14/14 |
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| in provincetown, by the way, was superb. i've never enjoyed him more in any setting. he's was personable (if kind of all over the place) funny and in fine, fine, voice. in fact, i don't think i'd realized before what a really extraordinarily good singer he is. if there is a better male, american, broadway singer out there right now i can't think of who he is. and he had wonderful stories, including one about saying no to sondheim because he needed to go on vacation with his boyfriend and sondheim being supportive. | |
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| re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? | |
| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 11:51 am EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - enoch10 11:48 am EDT 09/14/14 |
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| YAY!!! I've wanted Seth on Broadway for ages!!! This could have appeal in the vein of Xanadu. | |
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| But XANADU wasn't a hit. | |
| Posted by: | footlight9 01:44 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | re: DISASTER! to Broadway - Is this News? - bwaydiva1 11:51 am EDT 09/14/14 |
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| It was only capitalized at $5 million and couldn't even recoup that. The proposed transfer of DISASTER! is capitalized at $9 million. If it couldn't sustain a run at St. Luke's, lord knows why they think it would be able to sustain one on Broadway. | |
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| Music licensing question | |
| Posted by: | MarkBearSF 03:29 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | But XANADU wasn't a hit. - footlight9 01:44 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| The show uses 70s music throughout. (probably 20+ songs, from what I recall at the Triad) I'd assume that there was no small effort getting rights to all the songs for the original production (and possibly renegotiated for Broadway). However, thinking of later regional licensing - I'd assume that all the rights would be packaged up with the show and later productions wouldn't be burdened with managing the many royalties involved, right? | |
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| I suspect you have the I vesfor sheets | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 02:17 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | But XANADU wasn't a hit. - footlight9 01:44 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| Whats the weekly nut projected to be. $9m seems awefully high for waht I thought was a small show. Did xanadu recoup anything? I think its average weekly for the run was undrr 250k. That was probzbly break even. | |
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| invester sheets | |
| Posted by: | dramedy (gdramedy@aol.com) 02:18 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | I suspect you have the I vesfor sheets - dramedy 02:17 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| Id love to see the chart if you want to email it. Thanks | |
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| re: But XANADU wasn't a hit. | |
| Posted by: | bwaydiva1 02:08 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
| In reply to: | But XANADU wasn't a hit. - footlight9 01:44 pm EDT 09/14/14 |
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| Maybe they have good casting lined up for Disaster? (Like big stars-and they sure cost money. But, they can bring in huge dividends if they prove to be a draw.) | |
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