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| Posted by: | davei2000 02:05 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - icecadet 01:33 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| Elevator girl Shirley MacLaine breaks a date to see The Music Man with Jack Lemmon in this 1960 film. What is The Apartment, Alex? A much more likely Jeopardy! question... | |
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| Posted by: | mamaleh 03:12 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - davei2000 02:05 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| I've long wondered. Were Bacharach & David itching to write a song about basketball? Or was the reason librettist Neil Simon changed a ticket to a musical to a ticket to a Knicks game that the zeigeist had already begun to change, reflecting a growing distancing from stage musicals as popular entertainment? Only about 11 years separated THE APARTMENT from PROMISES, PROMISES. | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 04:25 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - mamaleh 03:12 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| Probably for several reasons, including that having a song about going to see a specific musical would have dated the show, possibly even during its own original run. (Of course, the show did date pretty quickly, but they perhaps didn't realize how quickly it was going to date.) The movie will forever be set while THe Music Man was running. They probably hoped that Promises, Promises would still be running after Hello, Dolly! closed. But, yes, probably the zeitgeist, too. | |
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| re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 03:15 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - mamaleh 03:12 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| Interesting question. Of course, "She likes Music Man, how about that?" would still scan correctly...:-) | |
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| "While I don't love musicals"... | |
| Posted by: | garyd 07:42 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - Chromolume 03:15 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| "but she likes Music Man, how about that"? does not scan as well and, of course it would have been necessary for him to say that in order to solidify his straight bonafides. | |
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| Posted by: | MikeR 03:23 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - Chromolume 03:15 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| Like it or not, a joyful song from a man about how the woman he is interested in likes musicals would've seemed a little weird. Demographically speaking, women are usually more interested in musicals than men. I always assumed they changed it because they wanted Chuck to have "wow, we have something in common" moment, and perhaps also because singing a song about going to a musical in a musical might've been too "meta" (not that anyone would've used that term in 1968). | |
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| re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 04:34 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - MikeR 03:23 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| Demographically speaking, women are usually more interested in musicals than men. And of course we tend to think (correct or not) that men are more interested in sports than women are. Therefore an added surprise for him that she likes basketball, adding to the emotional reason for the song. | |
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| re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! | |
| Posted by: | MikeR 04:37 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - Chromolume 04:34 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| Yeah, absolutely. I know when I played Chuck, I tried for a real moment of surprise when Fran was able to throw basketball stats at me. I think especially in 1968/69 that Chuck would not have expected Fran to be interested in basketball (or any sport). | |
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| My interest in baseball in 2014 still makes some men take pause | |
| Posted by: | Esther 04:59 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - MikeR 04:37 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| and they often note with some surprise how I know more about the game than they do. | |
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| That's a sure, sure, sure, sure way to lose a man. (NM) | |
| Posted by: | Seth Christenfeld (tabula-rasa@verizon.net) 05:24 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | My interest in baseball in 2014 still makes some men take pause - Esther 04:59 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| Seth, quotationist | |
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| Posted by: | showtunetrivia 04:44 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - MikeR 04:37 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| As a football-addicted schoolgirl in 1968-69, I know damn well I freaked out all the boys in my class. Hell, I even pitched a FIT when my school held a father-son pancake breakfast at which a Los Angeles Ram running back (one of my faves) was the invited guest. They didn't let me attend, but I got to meet him in private and he signed my scrapbook. So, yeah, Fran's knowledge marks her as out of the ordinary, and worthy of a great number to celebrate that. Laura | |
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| re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! | |
| Posted by: | mamaleh 03:29 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - MikeR 03:23 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| Yes, joyful expression of finding a commonality makes sense. Thanks. | |
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| WEST SIDE STORY? | |
| Posted by: | aislestorm 03:34 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - mamaleh 03:29 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| The question for Final Jeopardy right now was "What film shot it's first scene on the first day of shooting on 57th and 5th?". Two people guessed.... | |
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| shouldn't that be East Side Story? | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 04:14 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | WEST SIDE STORY? - aislestorm 03:34 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| nm | |
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| wow, one i would have gotten right | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 04:13 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | WEST SIDE STORY? - aislestorm 03:34 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| breakfast at tiffany | |
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| neither version of the answer would i have gottent the question | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 02:38 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | re: NOT a JEOPARDY! question - yet! - davei2000 02:05 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| but that's why i never tried out for Jeopardy. I'd be much better at Wheel of Fortune for the smart challenged crowd. | |
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| re: ...and I win no prize for grammar... | |
| Posted by: | davei2000 02:45 pm EST 11/17/14 |
| In reply to: | neither version of the answer would i have gottent the question - dramedy 02:38 pm EST 11/17/14 |
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| since I made Jack Lemmon the star of The Music Man! | |
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