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| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 11:37 pm EST 11/18/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - sirpupnyc 11:26 pm EST 11/18/14 |
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| But it's hard to believe that the window would be that strict, especially for a telecast in Times Square, which is not exactly a residential area. And if the window was that strict, it's hard to believe they didn't make a point of starting the show on time -- even if was opening night when, performances often start much later than the stated time -- specifically because of the scheduled live telecast. | |
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| Posted by: | MikeR 12:05 am EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - Michael_Portantiere 11:37 pm EST 11/18/14 |
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| I don't really find either of those things hard to believe. | |
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| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 11:59 am EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - MikeR 12:05 am EST 11/19/14 |
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| So, for some reason the permit was for a very short window -- they could have the telecast say, from 7:45 to 7:55, but not from 8:00 to 8:10? And given that those involved with the show knew the window was so small and they wouldn't be able to show the Act I finale live, as had been widely publicized, if they didn't start on time, they still didn't make a point of doing so? I don't understand any of that, but maybe the explanation is that they didn't think the brevity of the window would be strictly enforced. Either way, they were obviously ready with a pre-recorded version as a backup, presumably in case something went wrong with the live transmission. | |
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| Posted by: | sirpupnyc 01:53 pm EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - Michael_Portantiere 11:59 am EST 11/19/14 |
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| Have you considered why they didn't start on time? I don't know, but my guess is that it was delays in getting a full, VIP-laden house seated. Something over which the show and the house have only a moderate amount of control. If the show had started with one of the stars' mothers still out in the lobby waiting to be seated, we'd be reading about the cold-hearted marketing people sticking to their artificial schedule at the expense of the cast and the audience. They probably allowed for a 15-minute delay, and when they determined they weren't going to be able to get on the screen before the permitted time had run out, they went to plan B. Clear Channel presumably preferred to honor the terms of the permit rather than jeopardize their relationship with the precinct, whose cooperation is necessary for the future operation of their big expensive gadget. When rolling out a new toy, it's best not to demonstrate on the first time out that you don't care about the limits imposed by the local authorities. | |
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| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 04:20 pm EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - sirpupnyc 01:53 pm EST 11/19/14 |
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| Of course I've considered why they didn't start on time; the reasons you state are the same reasons why opening night performances usually start considerably later that the scheduled time. What I'm saying is, knowing that is true, they probably shouldn't have scheduled what was trumpeted as a live transmission if such a brief window was allowed, unless they were determined to try to get everyone in their seats at the theater by the scheduled start time or allow latecomers to take their seats during the performance. I hope that clarifies my point. | |
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| Posted by: | enoch10 03:02 pm EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - sirpupnyc 01:53 pm EST 11/19/14 |
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| none of this stopped them from acknowledging they were running a tape. would people have been disappointed? possibly. would they have looked bad? probably. but they'd have looked better than they do right now. people tend to be understanding of things beyond people's control. i'd be making excuses for them - though this isn't a first opening night for most of these people and some have spent considerable time in the past few months watching this production with a stopwatch. they had a pretty good idea what time the number should come up. they also had an hour after it started knowing exactly when the number would come up. technical mishaps people tend to account for. this comes off as dishonesty which people tend to resent. | |
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| Posted by: | Ann 02:03 pm EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - sirpupnyc 01:53 pm EST 11/19/14 |
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| The point is, we don't really know. They knew it was going to be opening night - whether or not a delay was built in, who knows. Maybe they should have scheduled a delayed airing at 8:15, to cover even a 23 minute delay. My only issue is with how/when the truth rolled out. | |
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| Posted by: | Chromolume 10:27 pm EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - Ann 02:03 pm EST 11/19/14 |
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| My only issue is with how/when the truth rolled out. I'm beginning to think we should start calling this "SideShowGate." ;-) | |
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| Maybe six years from now... | |
| Posted by: | seeseveryshow 02:10 pm EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Awww - Ann 02:03 pm EST 11/19/14 |
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| Maybe six years from now on the day the show closes, they will be able to show a live clip from the final performance in Times Square. Let's all hope so. | |
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| Posted by: | sandcastle 05:03 pm EST 11/19/14 |
| In reply to: | Maybe six years from now... - seeseveryshow 02:10 pm EST 11/19/14 |
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| Maybe they should just abandon this idea altogether. Although didn't Barbra pull this off? | |
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