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Posted by: dramedy 01:27 pm EST 11/20/14
In reply to: HONEYMOON IN VEGAS last night (longish) - NeoAdamite 11:59 am EST 11/20/14

may be liked by the audience, but aren't liked by the surrounding characters. He has to be likable otherwise there would be no reason that he would consider dating him and get on the plane. he is a jerk trying to take the girl from the lead, but there has to be plausible belief that he can steal her away.

I felt Danza did a nice job walking that tightrope--little sleazy, likable and you kind of want him to succeed in taking her from the lead.


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Posted by: NeoAdamite 01:33 pm EST 11/20/14
In reply to: most villians - dramedy 01:27 pm EST 11/20/14

We don't disagree, we're talking about two different things: the audience knows the truth about the bad guy, the heroes in this case don't.

So yes, the woman here has to find the villain likable, but the audience doesn't.


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Posted by: dramedy 01:50 pm EST 11/20/14
In reply to: re: most villians - NeoAdamite 01:33 pm EST 11/20/14

that's a good point that she doesn't know his past and only what he tells her.

I was still routing for him. I felt the lead was young but so bland for her, she needed to hook up with the rich guy--but maybe my age is showing (first marry for love, second for money!)


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Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 02:36 pm EST 11/20/14
In reply to: re: most villians - dramedy 01:50 pm EST 11/20/14

"first marry for love, second for money!" -- That's what Jackie Kennedy Onassis used to say. I never saw the play Jackie that played Broadway in the late 1990's, but there was a little bit of a hint of her philosophy about men in Grey Gardens.


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unfortunately, i'm old enough

Posted by: dramedy 03:27 pm EST 11/20/14
In reply to: re: most villians - BroadwayTonyJ 02:36 pm EST 11/20/14

to skip the first marriage but too old to find that rich daddy for the second!


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