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| Posted by: | keikekaze 03:23 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - WaymanWong 02:24 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| If Heidi Thomas and her producer want to make a completely new adaptation of Colette's novella, that's fine, but they'll need a completely new score to fit it. The old score won't, because it was written for a different adaptation that viewed the characters in a different way. | |
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| Does anyone think this production would last any longer than the other? | |
| Posted by: | Greg_M 04:45 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - keikekaze 03:23 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| The timing is all wrong for a stage show of "Gigi" in the first place, the second place the score was made for the film and it didn't work on stage before | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 03:55 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - keikekaze 03:23 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Thomas sounds like an intelligent person, but it's hard for me to fathom how some of the things she talks about will work. Some of them seem to really go against the spirit of the source material even as she talks about going back to Colette. Making Gigi 18 and Gaston not much older . . . that is so not Colette. It's what she and the others involved think today's audiences need (which she admits). And maybe audiences today do need it, but it certainly is not going back to Colette. Personally, I'm not sure that people really do need it changed quite that much. I can see how someone might think that the way to solve "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" (which, I agree, is a problem song nowadays) is to give it to Mamita and Alicia, but, really, what are they singing about when they get to: Those little eyes so helpless and appealing One day will flash and send you crashing through the ceiling I don't see how that can be about anything but a little girl growing up into a beautiful woman who excites men and may cause confusion and consternation in them, especially men who knew her as a girl. Which is a thought that Mamita and Alicia certainly could express, but not from the personal point of view that "you" suggests. I suppose they could change "you" to "men," but . . . they'd be better off cutting the song. | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | Greg_M 05:46 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - AlanScott 03:55 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| You have a problem with "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" then what must you have with "hasa diga eebowai" which translates to "Fuck you, G*d" in the "Book of Mormon" ??? | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 06:13 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - Greg_M 05:46 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Did I say in that post that I have a problem with the song personally? If it seemed like I was saying that, then what I meant was not coming across. I meant that I agree that many people hear the song nowadays in a way that causes distressing thoughts about things that the writers did not intend. I haven't seen The Book of Mormon. I have no problem with the title of the song that you mention. | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | keikekaze 04:06 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - AlanScott 03:55 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| I got the impression that what Thomas really wants to write isn't Gigi, but EveryGirl's Story In the Early 21st Century--which is, of course, an entirely different musical. "Thank Heaven For Little Girls" doesn't creep me out at all--but, of course, I'm just an old roué! : ) | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | gcarl44 07:28 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - keikekaze 04:06 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| I honestly cannot understand what everyone is going on about in this discussion. "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" has always been a totally innocent Gallic appreciation of approaching womanhood. There is nothing leering of inappropriate about this song in the context of the story or otherwise. Both Gaston and Honore are lotharios, but their predilection is clearly for grown women. How different is this song from the phrases "She's going to be a knockout!" or She's going break many hearts!" that men often say about young girls. The overly PC concerns that would put this song in the mouths of Maman and Alicia is in itself offensive, and points to a self-fulfilling (and erroneous) interpretation of the song. And totally changes the meaning of the moment. | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | keikekaze 03:02 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - gcarl44 07:28 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| I completely agree, gcarl44. | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 04:22 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - keikekaze 04:06 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Well it does creep me out just a bit, but on the other hand it does express a truth that we all pretty much know: Many, perhaps most, men do look at teenage girls that way. I'm not saying most adult men molest teenage girls (which the song certainly does not suggest either), or even want to have sex with them, but they certainly notice that they're becoming women. They notice their physical and sexual development. If you're doing an adult musical, well, this is a something that adults know. Maybe the song just sounds too lighthearted for a point that some may find creepy. The funny thing is that this version of the show sounds like it may end up being less adult then the movie from 57 years earlier. And I'm not even a huge fan of the movie. | |
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| The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | Greg_M 05:42 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - AlanScott 04:22 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| The song is about love of women . . .little girls grow to be those women. . .the singer isn't lusting after little girls, he's great full they will grow into women to think otherwise is going way overboard especially when you know the plot of the story | |
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| re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | singleticket 06:38 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - Greg_M 05:42 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Gaston follows an arc from doting on Gigi as "a little girl" to wanting to have sex with her. Perhaps little Gigi is being tastefully marketed to Gaston while she is a little girl or perhaps not. Gigi is being brought up in a demimonde of genteel prostitution that is so full of propriety that it might as well be as bourgeois an institution as marriage. That's the joke in the source material… the place where nearly all of its humor lies. "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" has all of that adult ambiguity in it… otherwise, why the need to cut it out? | |
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| re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | LegitOnce 06:43 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - singleticket 06:38 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Perhaps little Gigi is being tastefully marketed to Gaston while she is a little girl or perhaps not. Have you actually seen this movie? There is no way that can be imagined that Gigi is being "marketed" to Gaston, precisely the contrary in fact. Gaston has shown no interest in very young girls; his mistress is played by Eva Gabor who in real life was a couple of years older than Louis Jourdan. Later he squires Monique van Vooren, 30ish but statuesque and sophisticated, to the "Battle of Flowers." His type (in mistresses) is clearly established as mature, hyperfeminine blondes. Gigi is the exact opposite of that type, which is why Gaston really doesn't want Gigi to be his mistress. He makes the offer because he can't conceive of any other sort of romantic relationship with a woman. (Of course, one generally was not in love with one's wife.) Gigi makes the same assumption: she doesn't come from a family of women who marry. I don't have a DVD of the film handy, but I seem to recall a scene in which Aunt Alicia and Mamita are startled to realize that Gaston is attracted to Gigi. They decide that though this turn of events is unexpected, they need to put Gigi's training into high gear so she is ready when he makes an offer. So unless Alicia and Mamita are, in complete privacy, playing out a charade that they were unaware of Gaston's feelings, it only makes sense that they were "grooming" Gigi for someone else--eventually. | |
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| re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | singleticket 08:32 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 06:43 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| Gaston has shown no interest in very young girls; his mistress is played by Eva Gabor who in real life was a couple of years older than Louis Jourdan. Later he squires Monique van Vooren, 30ish but statuesque and sophisticated, to the "Battle of Flowers." His type (in mistresses) is clearly established as mature, hyperfeminine blondes. I think this is where Gaston is being commodified as Gigi is being trained to be a courtesan. The scene with Eva Gabor clearly shows why Gaston's role as a future Honoré is souring on him and why he might be attracted to Gigi… who is a blend of little girl innocence and a courtesan in training. And Gigi turns out to be no fool. She turns Alicia's training against its purpose and both humiliates and wins Gaston's heart. Is she calculating, no and perhaps yes. | |
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| re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | LegitOnce 08:40 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - singleticket 08:32 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| Now you're just making stuff up. One of my "ideals" is not to get involved in this kind of wrongheaded argument on the internet. | |
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| Posted by: | singleticket 08:52 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 08:40 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| There is definitely innocence in Gigi both as a character and in the musical as a whole but it exists in a world that is as much Balzac as Cinderella; wry economic calculation about the heart as much as fairy tale. | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 09:06 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| Now you're changing your argument. Please show me where in the text of the film it is shown that prior to the Trouville scene Alicia and Mamita were specifically grooming Gigi for Gaston. | |
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| Posted by: | singleticket 09:19 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 09:06 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| I think you're changing the argument into the one you want to have. Where did I say that Alicia and Mamita were "specifically grooming Gigi for Gaston"? I said perhaps or perhaps not. Mamita and Alica know who Gaston is. They know the role that he's born to play just as they know the role that Gigi is born to play. And again, I think you're wrong in seeing the musical purely as a fairy tale. | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 09:27 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - singleticket 09:19 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| If there is a perhaps, then you need a reason for that perhaps. There is no reason given in the movie for that "perhaps." Perhaps Gigi is really a boy and a space alien besides. Prove that she isn't. | |
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| Posted by: | singleticket 09:40 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 09:27 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| There is plenty of reason for that perhaps in that Gigi is being groomed as a courtesan in front of Gaston who is in the habit of acquiring courtesans. Gaston suddenly realizes in all innocence that he desires Gigi just as Mamita and Alica realize in all innocence that Gigi could be acquired by Gaston. You're saying those realizations are completely innocent. I'm saying, perhaps or perhaps not. And, you're being a bitch about now. | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 08:15 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 06:43 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| Okay, I found the scene I was talking about. It's right after "I remember it well." Alicia summons Mamita for a conference. Alicia says, "My dear sister, has it ever occurred to you.." And Mamita puzzled for a moment, then blurts, "Gigi?" -- astonished. Alicia, who has obviously developed a very sensitive radar for men's feelings of attraction (a handy tool indeed in her former line of work) has detected a subtle change in Gaston's attitude toward Gigi. He used to think of her as a baby sister, but now... it may well be something romantic. Mamita can't see this because a) she lacks Alicia's precise discernment and b) she has been too close to both Gaston and Gigi to notice what is after all a gradual and rather subtle shift in his feelings. The point, though, is that Alicia makes the discovery that Gaston is romantically attracted to Gigi and then determines to make the best of it; neither she nor Mamita was "marketing" Gigi to Gaston. Further proof of this fact is that once it has been established that Gigi is going "on the market," Mamita forbids Gigi to be seen in public with Gaston, because that would make Gigi appear either already taken or second-hand goods. If Mamita had been planning on "marketing" Gigi to Gaston, she would have limited their meetings earlier. | |
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| Posted by: | lordofspeech 11:45 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 08:15 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| Point well taken. Gigi was not being groomed for Gaston, specifically. But was she going to eventually be groomed for the profession? No? I don't know. | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 12:52 am EST 11/24/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - lordofspeech 11:45 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| I think it's pretty clear that Gigi is being prepared to enter the "family profession," though, ironically (as has been pointed out elsewhere) she is essentially receiving the same sort of training a genteel young woman of marriageable age would: how to serve coffee, how to enter a room, how to eat ortolans and so forth. (Obviously the ortolans scene is meant to be comic, but it's comedy based on truth; a married woman in society would be expected to have exquisite manners.) The training Aunt Alicia provides is essentially what separates a courtesan from a prostitute, which is to say the difference between being comfortably set for life and dying in poverty. (Mamita, being inclined to sentimentality, was not as good at the game as the level-headed Alicia, and that is consistent with the conventional wisdom of the 19th century that a truly successful courtesan must have a cold and absolutely practical heart. The second act (of the musical) plot turn, when Alicia decides that they had better strike while the iron is hot and get Gigi ready for Gaston, implies that before that point Alicia and Mamita didn't expect Gigi to "come out" for a while yet. This is all the more reason that Gigi needs to be played as a very young girl, the 15 1/2 Colette specifies or else her age tactfully not mentioned as in the MGM movie. | |
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| Posted by: | Greg_M 04:04 pm EST 11/24/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 12:52 am EST 11/24/14 |
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| There is a big difference between Gigi and a prostitute. A prostitute doesn't get taken out "on the town" and engage in a long term relationship with "one" man. The only difference between Gigi and a wife is a marriage certificate. A prostitute has multiple partners in one night and receives cash not gifts and is not to be seen with you in public | |
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| re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | singleticket 08:26 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 08:15 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| The only thing those scenes prove is that Alicia is the businesswoman and Mamita is the romantic. Both economics and romance exist side by side in the household. When it becomes clear that Gaston is taken with Gigi, it becomes absolutely necessary to maintain propriety in public. | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 08:32 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - singleticket 08:26 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| You haven't seen the movie then. Easier just to finish this conversation now. | |
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| Posted by: | singleticket 08:34 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 08:32 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| Hold on to your ideals! | |
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| re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | singleticket 08:15 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - LegitOnce 06:43 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| Yes, I have seen the movie, quite a few times. | |
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| re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | Alcindoro 06:58 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| >Gaston follows an arc from doting on Gigi as "a little girl" to wanting to have sex with her.< I think that's just as dirty a view of Gaston as someone who chooses to see Honoré as a covert child molester. Gaston has the revelation that he no longer has any choice BUT to see Gigi in a different light, as a poised, beautiful - and yes, desirable - young woman, no longer a charming, playful child. His understandable desire for her is confusing for him and, like an irrational child himself, he is angry at her for it. And she cannot understand this: as LegitOnce thoughtfully points out, she is only doing what everyone expects of her and is devastated when Gaston is angered by it. For the moment, they both seem to have lost a friend. To me this has always been so very touching about the film (I've never read Collette), and "Thank Heaven" more or less encapsulates the whole message of the upcoming story in song. Perhaps it's a problem because it is the opening number of the film and we haven't had the chance to get to know and like Honoré yet, but really it had never occurred to me that it was anything pervy until I was an adult and female (and gay male) friends pointed it out to me. Maybe the solution to the number would be positioning it later in the show, perhaps as Honoré explains his philosophy to other characters. I don't think making it a duet for the two older women "fixes" anything, in fact I think it can be construed just as negatively for different reasons. | |
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| re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way | |
| Posted by: | gcarl44 11:00 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - Alcindoro 06:58 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| Right on! Indeed, if given to the women to sing, it could just as easily be construed (by minds that naturally go to the perverse) as expectations of themselves being taken care of in their old age by the courtesan-in-training they are preparing for just such a life. People need to remember the era it is portraying and the whimsical and romantic nature of the piece. There is nothing in this that could be construed as perverse or inappropriate, except in the minds of the overly sensitive and overly PC (which, by the way, has already been taken to enough extremes of absurdity.) | |
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| Posted by: | Alcindoro 11:56 am EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - gcarl44 11:00 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| >the minds of the overly sensitive and overly PC< Not to mention the doggedly cynical. | |
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| Posted by: | singleticket 07:27 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| I think that's just as dirty a view of Gaston as someone who chooses to see Honoré as a covert child molester. Dirty? On the contrary, it's all quite proper. The characters operate in a grey area of middle class morality that at the same time has a very high respect for middle class economics. In that sense, it is kind of dirty. I don't think making it a duet for the two older women "fixes" anything, in fact I think it can be construed just as negatively for different reasons. Yes. | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 06:08 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | The song is only creepy if you choose to see it that way - Greg_M 05:42 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| I agree that's what the song is about, but when you have a man of 50 or 60 or 70 singing the song while looking at a bunch of teenage girls, as in the movie, it's easy to be a little creeped out by it, even if you know what the song is intended to be. | |
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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 07:56 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| Actually (I just checked) it doesn't play out quite that way. Honoré looks at the young girls (Gigi among them) and says "... and there is the future. Someday each and every one of them will be either married or unmarried. How adorable they are!" He glances at a very young girl, about 8 or 9, with an avuncular grin, and launches into the song, all of it directed to the camera. He doesn't leer, he doesn't sigh, he doesn't do anything but enjoy the idea that there will eventually be a new crop of young, beautiful women to enjoy. His joy is in anticipation. Sadly, Anglo-Saxon society (it's even worse in Great Britain) has become infinitely oversensitized to the imminent danger of child molestation, to the point that it is practically impossible to form a friendly relationship with a person from a different generation. Virtually all of these friendships are completely innocent and in fact healthy for the participants on both sides of the generational divide. Now, unfortunately, this sort of friendship is immediately defined as "creepy," which, because it makes the beholder uncomfortable, must necessarily be further defined as illegal. I had lots of adult friends when I was a child, especially as a preteen, and I think those relationships were very valuable. Such a thing would be almost impossible today, because dirty-minded society insists on being "creeped out." | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 04:05 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Alan, I had the same thought about "Thank Heaven for Little Girls," especially that particular section of the lyrics. | |
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| Posted by: | Michael_Portantiere 03:52 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Good point. I would add that French literature is chock full of stories involving older men becoming romantically/sexually involved with much younger women. It would seem that really is, or was, an accepted fact of the French way of life. "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" as performed by Chevalier in the film may creep us out today, but I think it's a entirely apropos for that sort of character at that time -- and, for that matter, it didn't seem to be a problem for American movie audiences in 1958. To take that song away from Honore, and to otherwise downplay his role is very contrary to the spirit and the approach of the movie musical (and I believe also the Broadway version, though I didn't see it). Will be interesting to see if the reconception of the story and characters is successful or not. | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | Chromolume 03:56 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - Michael_Portantiere 03:52 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| This will be the 2nd attempt in the last few years to "fix" a Lerner musical...they didn't learn from the mess they made with On A Clear Day? | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 04:00 pm EST 11/21/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - Chromolume 03:56 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Perhaps they should either make Gigi into a boy (but then they'd have to change the title) or Gaston into a woman. I'd be interested in seeing the lesbian version of Gigi. It would probably be more interesting than what it sounds like they're going to do. | |
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| Posted by: | Indavidzopinion 01:55 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| They should keep the song in. After the old guy, or now Mamacita sings, "Thank heaven for them all, no matter where, no matter who. Without them, what would little boys do?" someone should sing, "They would have sex with one another. Not that there's anything wrong with that." In this way, the whole message of the song would be updated. And Vanessa Hudgens as the successor to Audrey Hepburn in the title role (stage version)...kind of absurd! | |
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| re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 05:13 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: ''Gigi'': ''Overnight, there's been a ... change in you'' - Indavidzopinion 01:55 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| I have to admit that I know next to nothing about Vanessa Hudgens. All I really know is that she will be playing Gigi, and that people here who saw her as Mimi in that Rent concert thought her performance was inept and laughable. | |
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