| Honeymoon in Vegas tonight | |
| Posted by: | adammueller308 11:58 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Just saw it. Really enjoyed the score. Not sure if Danza has a cold or just needs his mic turned up but was hard to hear. But the thing I can't get over: the mezzanine and balcony was largely empty on a FRIDAY night - just really surprised to see this at a new musical by JRB. | |
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| re: Honeymoon in Vegas tonight | |
| Posted by: | keikekaze 04:48 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - adammueller308 11:58 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| What was Friday--the fifth preview? Opening night is January 15. Nobody knows it's there yet. | |
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| ALL of JRB's shows flopped quickly | |
| Posted by: | NoPeopleLike 09:15 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - adammueller308 11:58 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| Why would it surprise you that there's not much of an audience? | |
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| re: JRB work will be appreciated when revived | |
| Posted by: | Harper 04:02 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | ALL of JRB's shows flopped quickly - NoPeopleLike 09:15 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| He's incredibly talented. His work will probably be done regionally, reevaluated with a new appreciation, audiences will become familiar with the work, and his shows will find their way back to New York either on or off-Broadway. Unfortunately, his casts haven't been ideal, like this one. | |
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| Posted by: | AlanScott 06:16 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - adammueller308 11:58 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| I wonder if it has something to do with the two months of previews. | |
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| Posted by: | Delvino 12:36 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - AlanScott 06:16 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| They're sort of on the BEAUTIFUL schedule. BEAUTIFUL began at this time last year, and didn't open until January. But of course, BEAUTIFUL had an audience almost from the top. I saw it Thanksgiving. | |
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| most people have no clue when opening night is for shows | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 11:59 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - AlanScott 06:16 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| I was at on the town and the couple behind me thought it opened. When opening night was 5 days away. | |
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| re: most people have no clue when opening night is for shows | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 04:06 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | most people have no clue when opening night is for shows - dramedy 11:59 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| I think it's true that many people (and sometimes most people) don't know, but it's also true that the more savvy theatregoers who might be mostly likely to be interested in seeing the new Jason Robert Brown show will know. Some of them may be so excited to see it that they will go immediately, but a lot of them may prefer to wait till it's in something closer to final shape, especially since discounts will surely continue. | |
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| I still believe this will be a huge hit | |
| Posted by: | dramedy 04:27 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: most people have no clue when opening night is for shows - AlanScott 04:06 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| And being Ina 1200 seat house will have discounts disappear after the show catches on. But I thought Matilda would be solid sold out hit for at least 5years and I was wrong about that. | |
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| re: I still believe this will be a huge hit | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 05:10 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | I still believe this will be a huge hit - dramedy 04:27 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| I haven't seen Matilda, but I'm not the least bit surprised that it's not the enormous hit here that it was in London. Of course, by comparison with pre-1990 Broadway, it is an enormous hit (at least in terms of how many performances it will run). | |
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| re: I still believe this will be a huge hit | |
| Posted by: | John_Patti 08:54 am EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I still believe this will be a huge hit - AlanScott 05:10 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| Nothing's a sold out hit anymore unless its a play with names or BOM, Wicked Lion King and if you look closely they are not always sold out. Look at Pippin - great reviews - raving fans - and it couldn't make two years in a tiny theater. One never knows what will be a sold out hit unless Hugh Jackman is in it. | |
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| re: I still believe this will be a huge hit | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 10:03 am EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I still believe this will be a huge hit - John_Patti 08:54 am EST 11/23/14 |
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| technical sellouts really have almost nothing to do with characterizing a huge hit. They have more to do with the crappiness of the detritus in a given theatre. The real question is simply whether you are recouping at a good clip. I also resist the notion that nothing is a huge hit any more, since it is clear that most of the flops or slow hits are just not that good. Bring in another BOM and you'll get another super hit. Bring in another matilda and you won't. bring in another show like what we saw last season and you definitely won't. I think you are over-describing Pippin: I think it did quite well for what it was/is. | |
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| re: I still believe this will be a huge hit | |
| Posted by: | keikekaze 10:42 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I still believe this will be a huge hit - ryhog 10:03 am EST 11/23/14 |
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| I agree, Pippin in revival did about as well as could be expected, and perhaps better than it deserved. It never has been much of a musical, but the Fosse staging dazzled in 1972 and Fosse then was at the peak of his cultural moment. The revival, without Fosse, was lucky to last as long as it did. But I think the previous poster may have meant, by "nothing is a huge hit anymore," that apart from BOM Broadway hasn't seen anything else lately that looks like it's going to run 15 or 20 years. That, I think, has more to do with costs and prices than quality, though I generally agree that quality has been lacking, too. | |
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| re: I still believe this will be a huge hit | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 11:50 pm EST 11/23/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I still believe this will be a huge hit - keikekaze 10:42 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| re huge hits... First of all, there have never been that many 15+ year running shows, nor would we want there to be. We have a few (by which I mean enough) right now. But I don't think it is about money (either side). I think Wicked has no horizon line, and if Mormon has one, it hasn't manifested. That is basically one per decade for 4 decades. I think the real problem is quality, and for better or worse I mean branding quality rather than intrinsic quality. | |
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| re: I still believe this will be a huge hit | |
| Posted by: | keikekaze 07:57 pm EST 11/24/14 |
| In reply to: | re: I still believe this will be a huge hit - ryhog 11:50 pm EST 11/23/14 |
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| First of all, there have never been that many 15+ year running shows, nor would we want there to be. We have a few (by which I mean enough) right now. I agree completely. I'm no fan of endless runs on Broadway, as I've said many times. But we did get eleven Broadway shows that had 12-year runs or more (or are about to reach that point) between 1975 (A Chorus Line) and 2005 (Jersey Boys), and only one more (Book of Mormon) has joined that list since 2005. They "proliferated"--insofar as they did--during the '80s and '90s, a period when money was relatively easy and spending was relatively free. They've stopped "proliferating" since 2005. You need large audiences who can throw a lot of money around to sustain runs of that length, so I don't imagine we're going to see many more such runs in the near future--which is fine with me. | |
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| re: Honeymoon in Vegas tonight | |
| Posted by: | aislestorm 11:36 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - AlanScott 06:16 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| It would taken 2 months to get the real Elvis off the ground. | |
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| Posted by: | lowwriter 12:31 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - adammueller308 11:58 pm EST 11/21/14 |
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| I'm not surprised. The cold temperatures are keeping people inside. And people don't want to go out the weekend before Thanksgiving. | |
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| on cold temperatures keeping people away etc. | |
| Posted by: | seeseveryshow 09:28 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - lowwriter 12:31 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| I don't buy that. The theater district was mobbed last night, and it was, in fact, NYC's first gridlock alert day of the holiday season. I agree that blizzard conditions often keep people home, or create travel problems. The weather last night was quite pleasant. I don't believe you can blame the weather or the time of year for an empty mezzanine at the Nederlander last night. The show just started, and Danza's no Cooper or Jackman. I will attend tomorrow afternoon, and report back on the attendance, etc. | |
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| i was very disappointed in the Paper Mill production | |
| Posted by: | bythesea2007 10:30 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | on cold temperatures keeping people away etc. - seeseveryshow 09:28 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| I thought the movie was fun but the musical a letdown. McClure was very good but Danza could not sing nor dance. I adore all other scores by Brown but disappointed in this one. Also there were parts of the book that I just thought were too silly. I was quite amazed with the very good reviews it received at Paper Mill. | |
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| re: i was very disappointed in the Paper Mill production | |
| Posted by: | enoch10 03:12 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | i was very disappointed in the Paper Mill production - bythesea2007 10:30 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| >> I was quite amazed with the very good reviews it received at Paper Mill. if this thing turns out to be a stinker those reviews are really going to piss me off. i'm going with a group in a couple of weeks. i only buy in advance for group sales and went ahead with this one based solely on those reviews. oh well, like the old saying goes, you buy a ticket and you take a chance. man, i sure wish i had waited on this one. at least the date is a couple of weeks away. | |
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| re: i was very disappointed in the Paper Mill production | |
| Posted by: | bythesea2007 03:26 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: i was very disappointed in the Paper Mill production - enoch10 03:12 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| Well, the night I saw it at Paper Mill the audience was loving it. My friend and I looked at each other in amazement. four friends also saw the show there and were equally disappointed. I always thought Danza was suppose to be a good showman. Not when we saw it. But we are in the minority based on the audience responses when we were there. | |
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| Posted by: | ryhog 10:24 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | on cold temperatures keeping people away etc. - seeseveryshow 09:28 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| of course you are right. Aside from everything else, how would one explain the disparity with other shows whose audiences endured the same "cold temps" (by which we mean, to put it in context, temps bottoming out right around the freezing mark-not in single digits or accompanied by snow. | |
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| No Standing Ovation | |
| Posted by: | stan 08:54 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Honeymoon in Vegas tonight - lowwriter 12:31 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| Last night, the lady in front of my very good orch. TDF seat stood for a few seconds and then sat when she noticed that there were few supporters for her enthusiasm. I didn't mind the show, but it wasn't good. I actually thought it was kind of creepy ... starting with the pallor of Tony Danza's face to the strangeness of the meager dance numbers. The music, too, was bland with horrible lyrics. McClure was good, as was Brynn O'Malley. The only treat was Nancy Opel. | |
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| Posted by: | Shutterbug 10:51 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | No Standing Ovation - stan 08:54 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| True that. Very few people standing during the curtain call. I thought the production was amusing but a mixed bag overall. Nancy Opel steals the show. Rob McClure is fantastic as is David Josefsberg and Brynn O'Malley. Tony Danza, on the other hand, is no singer - and he has so many songs! Oy! I agree his make-up seemed too heavy and was not a flattering shade. Also agree about the dancing - very pedestrian. You can see similar dancing in college productions all across the country. The music was fine. Some of the slower numbers were rather bland, but the brassy numbers fit the mood and setting nicely. JRB was in the house and taking notes. If my budget or time only allowed for one such Broadway excursion, and I was in the mood for a fizzy, musical comedy...I would recommend ON THE TOWN over this show, no question. | |
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| Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? | |
| Posted by: | John_Patti 11:09 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: No Standing Ovation - Shutterbug 10:51 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| I know we are not all crazy about some of his reviews or the way he approaches them. But has be ever been as off as he seems to be here? The only reason this came to NY was because of his review. | |
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| re: Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? | |
| Posted by: | nsguy45 07:41 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? - John_Patti 11:09 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| Given the way Brantley raved about Fun Home in the NYT and on "Theater Talk", should the producers be concerned? | |
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| re: Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 08:03 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? - nsguy45 07:41 pm EST 11/22/14 |
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| those producers have lots of reasons to be concerned but a rave from Ben is not one of them. Sheesh. Do you people really think what you type on here? | |
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| re: Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 11:15 am EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? - John_Patti 11:09 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| as has been rehearsed several times lately, Brantley was not some bizarre outlier on this show, and there were many highly enthusiastic reviews by respected posters here so it seems presumptuous to assume "we" would reach such a consensus. | |
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| re: Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? | |
| Posted by: | Delvino 12:50 pm EST 11/22/14 |
| In reply to: | re: Has Brantley made such a bad call previously? - ryhog 11:15 am EST 11/22/14 |
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| I well recall many entirely positive responses to the show. The consensus seemed to be: this is an old fashioned musical comedy, in the GUYS AND DOLLS tradition. Brantley's review of course translated readily into NYC consideration, but the critics seemed to have a helluva good time. | |
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