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Kinda cool the show is getting good reviews isn't it?

Posted by: Greg_M 12:44 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: re: While not the rave of the Times .... - lowwriter 08:46 am EST 01/16/15

Seems people on ATC really want this show to get trashed, yet most of the critics seem to like it . . . maybe it will run past labor day


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Yes!

Posted by: Jax 02:48 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: Kinda cool the show is getting good reviews isn't it? - Greg_M 12:44 pm EST 01/16/15

Especially considering the glee with which it was attacked by some on this board.

HONEYMOON is a slick, tuneful "tired businessman" kind of show, a throwback to musicals of four decades ago. If that's your thing -- it was mine-- you'll have a grand time. If not, hey, move on. The show is not a disaster or an embarrassment; those who labor to label it as such tell us more about themselves than they do about the show.

BTW, if you go you get an overture and a band on stage. Lotta fun!


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re: Yes!

Posted by: enoch10 10:41 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: Yes! - Jax 02:48 pm EST 01/16/15

>> Especially considering the glee with which it was attacked by some on this board.

really? because i don't think i've ever read anyone gleefully trash a show including this one. what does "gleefully trashing" a show look/sound like exactly?

i didn't like the show. at all. and said so. and will again. i think it's mindless, unimaginative, mediocre and pretty much a waste of time all the way around. that - for me - is an accurate assessment and the fact that brantley loves it alters it not one whit.

what part of that sounds gleeful to you?

no one is going to agree with any critic all the time. i agree with brantley more often than not but not here. he acknowledges it's mindless so it isn't like we aren't seeing the same show but mindless can either be enjoyable or not. when it is you find the musical charming like he did. when it isn't you find the musical to be a piece of drivel as i did.


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re: Yes!

Posted by: Jax 11:56 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: re: Yes! - enoch10 10:41 pm EST 01/16/15

" what does "gleefully trashing" a show look/sound like exactly?

i didn't like the show. at all. and said so. and will again. i think it's mindless, unimaginative, mediocre and pretty much a waste of time all the way around. that - for me - is an accurate assessment and the fact that brantley loves it alters it not one whit.

what part of that sounds gleeful to you?"

Pretty much all of it. I mean, if you said it once before, why is it so important to say it again? Some people, including the majority of the critics, like a show you didn't. Is that really such a biggie?


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re: Yes!

Posted by: Ann 04:55 am EST 01/18/15
In reply to: re: Yes! - Jax 11:56 pm EST 01/16/15

He doesn't sound happy to me.

Is it okay if people who like a show say it repeatedly?


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re: Yes!

Posted by: enoch10 12:11 am EST 01/18/15
In reply to: re: Yes! - Jax 11:56 pm EST 01/16/15

i repeated it because you seem to find a tone of "gleeful" in it, where is that exactly?

dour, maybe. cynical. maybe. gleeful? no. unless i'm missing something. if so, which part was the gleeful part again?

some people don't like a show you do. why must their opinion be disparaged? the implication being they didn't dislike it on valid grounds they just trashed the show for the fun of trashing a show. i call bullshit. if you can provide evidence to the contrary, go right ahead. right after you point out how the quote of mine you post can be described as "gleeful,"


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re: Yes!

Posted by: BrianJ 10:55 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: re: Yes! - enoch10 10:41 pm EST 01/16/15

I'd say many of the reviews quoted by Ken Mandelbaum at the beginnings of the chapters of NOT SINCE CARRIE provide examples of people gleefully trashing shows. Maybe we have different perceptions of it, though, since I feel like it's a phenomenon I've encountered often in my life (from both professional critics and civilian audience members/online posters) whereas you don't feel you've ever encountered it.


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re: Yes!

Posted by: RDavidS 09:39 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: Yes! - Jax 02:48 pm EST 01/16/15

Right on, Jax!


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Once again

Posted by: Ann 01:22 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: Kinda cool the show is getting good reviews isn't it? - Greg_M 12:44 pm EST 01/16/15

Most people who don't like it don't "want this show to get trashed" - they genuinely don't like it. The opinions on this show have a wider range than usual - why that is could (and has been) a topic of discussion. But the nays are not people who just want to say something bad.

(and, you're one of the "people on ATC" - do you feel that way?)


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re: Once again

Posted by: Greg_M 01:46 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: Once again - Ann 01:22 pm EST 01/16/15

I haven't seen the show yet, so I can't say. It seems if a show is getting good reviews across the boards that should be a happy thing though


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re: Once again

Posted by: Ann 01:52 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: re: Once again - Greg_M 01:46 pm EST 01/16/15

If one thinks the show is really bad, they can view the reviews as awarding bad material, and not be happy about that. I think that's understandable.


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re: Once again

Posted by: AlanScott 02:31 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: re: Once again - Ann 01:52 pm EST 01/16/15

And when a show that you don't think is good (and that a lot of people you know also don't think is good) gets good reviews, you may wonder if a lot of the people who see the show because of the reviews may leave the show thinking, "Well, it's going to be a long time before I shell out that kind of money, or any money, to go to the theatre again."

Obviously, regular, longtime theatregoers are not likely to feel that way. But people with limited experience going to the theatre might well think something like, "If this is what's supposed to be good, maybe I just don't get theatre. Maybe theatre is just not something I like."


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re: Once again

Posted by: enoch10 10:50 pm EST 01/16/15
In reply to: re: Once again - AlanScott 02:31 pm EST 01/16/15

i haven't read all the reviews but even if they were all highly positive - which is what brantley's is. a rave is a rare and precious thing and we haven't had one for a while - i'd be amazed if they turned it around for this. the word of mouth i'm hearing is terrible and the numbers we're all getting are worse. it's got the rest of january and all of february to get through and then an onslaught of new musicals.

it's toast. not very good toast, but toast.


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