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Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: dbg 11:01 pm EST 01/16/15

Jonathan Groff has a brief but moving scene as a young war veteran indebted to Bradley Cooper's character in this outstanding film.

While I was disappointed that Jake Gyllenhaal didn't get an Oscar nomination for Nightcrawler, I feel Bradley Cooper is most deserving of his. He is having quite a year with an Oscar nod and a likely Tony nomination to come.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: royscho 12:59 pm EST 01/17/15
In reply to: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - dbg 11:01 pm EST 01/16/15

Can I just ask what makes a presumably grownup person to be "disappointed" that a celebrity didn't get an oscar nomination? I mean, out of all the things in the world that may upset you, why would you be bothered that a complete stranger, who - like all Hollywood A-list actors - is unproportionally privileged vs. 99.9% of everyone else in the world, is not nominated to receive an industry award?

And I am not trying to be a troll. I am asking coz I really don't get why people actually care/feel bad for a movie star's vanity.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: dbg 02:58 pm EST 01/17/15
In reply to: re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - royscho 12:59 pm EST 01/17/15

Since you asked... As a definitely "grownup person" who has followed the Oscars since they first were televised, I follow the nominations closely. Jake G. was considered as having a good chance of getting a nomination for Nightcrawler, a film and a performance I found very worthy of nominations. I merely said I was disappointed he didn't get nominated, and since that spot went to Bradley Cooper, since the other four nominations were given to actors pretty much anticipated as getting them, I was perfectly happy that Cooper was nominated, as he's quite wonderful in American Sniper. This was an exceptional year for actors in films. Expressing happiness or disappointment is part of the annual awards game, and it will continue with the Tony Awards when people who post on this board will be making predictions and expressing dismay over who should have been nominated and who wasn't. Life goes on, and it's not the end of the world if a favorite is nominated or not.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: OnceMoreWithFeeling 01:22 pm EST 01/17/15
In reply to: re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - royscho 12:59 pm EST 01/17/15

And using the term "grownup" as a placeholder for your snark basically makes you a troll.

You don't have to care about actors, awards or "vanity' but don't make judgements because someone does.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: OnceMoreWithFeeling 01:16 pm EST 01/17/15
In reply to: re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - royscho 12:59 pm EST 01/17/15

I don't see it as vanity.

It's nice to see someone put effort into a role rather than phoning it in as many A-listers do and be recognized for it.

The Award shows don't actually mean anything for us, but it's nice to see a deserving actor/actress rewarded.

Bradley Cooper is a good example as he has proven quite versatile in these past years and not one-note like others.
Clooney for example IMHO.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: hitbycab 10:34 am EST 01/17/15
In reply to: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - dbg 11:01 pm EST 01/16/15

and the film is expected to bring in $75M!!!!! this weekend

Coupled with sold out ELEPHANT MAN, Bradley Cooper is a deserving gold mine!!!

Didn't know about Jonathan....seeing it today


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: lowwriter 09:07 am EST 01/17/15
In reply to: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - dbg 11:01 pm EST 01/16/15

I think Jake should have been nominated over Steve Carrell (who has never appeared on stage as far as I know) who give a monotonous, deadly performance with a distracting fake nose in Foxcatcher.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: TheOtherOne 07:34 am EST 01/17/15
In reply to: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - dbg 11:01 pm EST 01/16/15

That is one of the better scenes in the movie. Something I found fascinating about it is Groff's character not hiding an attraction to Chris Kyle (Cooper). Not that the scene was about that, but that it wasn't denied.

Just something interesting brought to the table, something that you don't expect to see acknowledged in war/warrior movies.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: gcarl44 05:23 pm EST 01/17/15
In reply to: re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - TheOtherOne 07:34 am EST 01/17/15

I think you are reading something into this that wasn't there. All I saw was a truly emotional expression of gratitude for something that can never be fully repaid.


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What movie were you watching?

Posted by: bradlyb 11:14 am EST 01/17/15
In reply to: re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - TheOtherOne 07:34 am EST 01/17/15

I did not in any way see where Groff's character had any attraction to cooper's.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: JayBee 09:03 am EST 01/17/15
In reply to: re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - TheOtherOne 07:34 am EST 01/17/15

Huh??? I saw the film and that NEVER ever came close to entering my mind. Funny how we bring our own agendas to something. For example, I saw it as an anti war film, but others see it as pro war, America Rah Rah.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: TheOtherOne 02:14 pm EST 01/17/15
In reply to: re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - JayBee 09:03 am EST 01/17/15

I saw no agenda on Jonathan or anyone else's part. What I saw, or my interpretation of what I saw, was not at all critical. I thought it was unique and brave. If I am projecting, I am not the first audience member to do so and I won't be the last.

I did not find the film pro- or anti- war. It was a look at a warrior.


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re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper

Posted by: AC126748 10:15 am EST 01/17/15
In reply to: re: Jonathan Groff in American Sniper - JayBee 09:03 am EST 01/17/15

I think some people, consciously or not, always read a gay subtext into any role played by an out actor, whether it's there or not.


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