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| Posted by: | LegitOnce 03:00 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - icecadet 02:48 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| Major cognitive dissonance going on here, complaining that a performer who admitted to criminal sexual acts is now going to appear in the extended rape fantasy that is Phantom of the Opera. | |
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| re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy | |
| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 09:44 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - LegitOnce 03:00 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| In not quite such strong language, I had the same thought. I believe that Barbour is allowed to be forgiven, and I think he's a wonderful actor. But for people who love "Phantom" to complain about a charismatic but dark performer who took advantage of a young woman who wanted to be a performer... It's the same story! | |
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| re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy | |
| Posted by: | peter3053 03:27 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - LegitOnce 03:00 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| I may have missed something about our society, but my understanding has been that we are to forgive and forget past wrongs once the person is repentant. Otherwise, are we to condemn people their whole lives? Are not past wrongdoers allowed to have an income from their profession? Phantom of the Opera is ultimately about love, acceptance and forgiveness. We should learn the lessons of our beloved art form. | |
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| re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy | |
| Posted by: | AC126748 06:41 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - peter3053 03:27 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| I may have missed something about our society, but my understanding has been that we are to forgive and forget past wrongs once the person is repentant. No, that's just the lip-service we pay. Across the board, people who've served jail time (pretty much regardless of charge) have a much harder time securing employment, securing housing, and securing stability, even after they've paid their debts. | |
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| re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy | |
| Posted by: | MockingbirdGirl 03:48 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - peter3053 03:27 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| I may have missed something about our society, but my understanding has been that we are to forgive and forget past wrongs once the person is repentant. We rather explicitly don't do that for sex offenders, who are required to publicize their whereabouts and remain social pariahs long after they have served their custodial sentences. | |
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| He's not a registered sex offender | |
| Posted by: | Glitter 05:33 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - MockingbirdGirl 03:48 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| .....so why is this an issue? | |
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| re: He's not a registered sex offender | |
| Posted by: | Delvino 05:53 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | He's not a registered sex offender - Glitter 05:33 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| Thank you. Sticking to the facts is always rather useful. Yet he's being painted with such a broad brush, you'd think he was a geriatric sitcom star with thirty accusers. This is rather witch-hunty to me, the degree to which this man's transgression is being used to make some kind of point. I am not his defender, but believe the issue is a consumer one: if you don't want to see him in PHANTOM, don't buy a ticket. If you don't like him, picket. Scream outside the Majestic. Take out ads. But he has every right to be employed. That's the bottom line. | |
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| re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy | |
| Posted by: | peter3053 04:17 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - MockingbirdGirl 03:48 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| Well, I guess his whereabouts will be 44th Street at a rather public theatre house, appearing in front of about 1000 people nightly ... shouldn't be too difficult to track him down... Yes, you're right, and some sex offenders may have psychiatric difficulties which they can't overcome; fortunately we live in a day and age when we can usually distinguish the poor unfortunate ones trapped inside distorted brains and who can't help themselves and the ones who can change their behaviour. Poor souls, I think. The Phantom himself is a sad case of someone who has been unable to direct his sexuality aright because of his physical appearance and society's (natural) horror. The beautiful ending is of course brought about by his letting go of his obsession, in the face of Christine's merciful love. | |
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| re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy | |
| Posted by: | superior_exterior 04:16 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - MockingbirdGirl 03:48 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| I was under the impression that Barbour plead guilty to two misdemeanor counts of endangering the welfare of a minor. He's not a registered sex offender. | |
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| Posted by: | MockingbirdGirl 04:24 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - superior_exterior 04:16 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| No, he was not required to register as a sex offender... but he was required to attend a sex offender treatment program as a condition of his plea. | |
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| re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy | |
| Posted by: | superior_exterior 05:11 pm EST 01/19/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom Casting Causes Controversy - MockingbirdGirl 04:24 pm EST 01/19/15 |
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| Right, no, there were certainly terms attached to the plea. I was only refering to the specific comment about how we "rather explicitly don't do that for sex offenders, who are required to publicize their whereabouts and remain social pariahs long after they have served their custodial sentences." Just to point out that this is not the case with Barbour. He was only required to disclose the conditions of his plea for the three years of his probation, which has ended. | |
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