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Warren's TONY oversight was probably because they gave him one LAST year for steps he did not create.

Posted by: 2hrsOfJustPow 02:34 am EDT 05/06/15
In reply to: Kristin back in ON THE 20TH CENTURY tonight - showbuzz 01:17 am EDT 05/06/15

Why do it again? He hires brilliant tap dancers as in AFTER MIDNIGHT who make up their own steps or uses assistants and takes all the credit.

Tap isn't really his thing...maybe that's why.
The emperors new clothes.


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re: Warren's TONY oversight was probably because they gave him one LAST year for steps he did not create.

Posted by: manaboutown 10:47 am EDT 05/06/15
In reply to: Warren's TONY oversight was probably because they gave him one LAST year for steps he did not create ... - 2hrsOfJustPow 02:34 am EDT 05/06/15

You are mistaken, Warren is an amazing tapper and has a very clear vision when creating his steps. All choreographers use assistants-it's part of the process not a crutch.
I've seen him do the steps himself--brilliantly.

What's your issue? He's talented and was overlooked for great work and that's a shame.


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Freezing a show

Posted by: showbuzz 11:37 am EDT 05/06/15
In reply to: re: Warren's TONY oversight was probably because they gave him one LAST year for steps he did not cr ... - manaboutown 10:47 am EDT 05/06/15

actors(dancers/singers) are NOT permitted to insert their own steps once a show is "frozen". Frozen for those who may not be aware is when the creative team stops making changes prior to the Opening.
Any variation,even slight, is noted by Production Stage Mangers and if the person continues to deviate what is recorded in the Stage Manager's book, they are warned and can be fined or fired....so these people are NOT improvising.


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re: Freezing a show

Posted by: AlanScott 06:37 pm EDT 05/06/15
In reply to: Freezing a show - showbuzz 11:37 am EDT 05/06/15

Tell that to Vanessa Redgrave.

Beyond that, I'm not really sure why you brought this up. No one was saying that the dancers were making up new steps after the opening. I think you misunderstood what 2hrsOfJustPow was saying.


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Indeed I was misunderstood.

Posted by: 2hrsOfJustPow 01:52 am EDT 05/07/15
In reply to: re: Freezing a show - AlanScott 06:37 pm EDT 05/06/15

I was referencing the actual choreography created in REHEARSAL not implying that anything on Broadway is improvised.

And if all the steps in AFTER MIDNIGHT were Warren's why was there such a buzz about his not creating the steps. Including some actually rumbling from the cast members about not getting credit for their own work.

I'm sure Warren owns a pair of tap shoes - but the steps in AFTER MIDNIGHT didn't remotely look like anything else he's ever created.

And the porters in ON THE TWENTIETH CENTURY are rather good - but the fuss about them is a bit overstated. They are four guys who tap well - executing decent (if unexceptional) tap choreography. There were better nominees this year than Warren. And thank heaven for that.


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[ Insert eyeroll emoji ]

Posted by: DistantDrumming 03:35 am EDT 05/06/15
In reply to: Warren's TONY oversight was probably because they gave him one LAST year for steps he did not create ... - 2hrsOfJustPow 02:34 am EDT 05/06/15

There were - what? - more than two dozen numbers in After Midnight? Nearly every single one a showstopper and plenty of non-tap dance, too. There were so many beautiful moments of movement in that show - what percentage of them were staged entirely by Carlyle I can't say - but (a). he was smart to hire not only great triple threats, but many dancers who were true specialists and could bring their authentic style and, apparently, steps to the table. (b). even if he only staged 80% of the evening, it was still a great accomplishment and, easily, the best choreography of the season.


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Ugh...like what? That dreadful balloon number?

Posted by: 2hrsOfJustPow 01:57 am EDT 05/07/15
In reply to: [ Insert eyeroll emoji ] - DistantDrumming 03:35 am EDT 05/06/15

That bizarre funeral dance with the broad hopping around on one leg for twenty minutes?

The unfocused, jumble of a finale?

Check out the SOPHISTICATED LADIES video if you want an example of what a show like this OUGHT to look like. The band sounded terrific and of course the songs ARE truly great so since Broadway is starved for that naturally the audience and most critics responded.

But this show was the emperors new clothes to me. And the four people I attended with agreed. We were all scratching our heads. The four tap numbers (not by Warren) were great. The point of my original post.


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