| Missing the point | |
| Posted by: | NeoAdamite 10:04 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | Poor, poor Marilyn Stasio... - StageLover 09:42 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| Stasio is being a responsible journalist who takes her job seriously; she is complaining that she is not able to do each show justice when so many come all at once. Writing on deadline is hard. | |
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| It's all about the Tonys! | |
| Posted by: | sandcastle 03:57 pm EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | Missing the point - NeoAdamite 10:04 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| Well, maybe one or two of them. Calling the beach in a few minutes...... | |
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| re: Missing the point | |
| Posted by: | AC126748 10:21 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | Missing the point - NeoAdamite 10:04 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| The life of a working journalist is about working on deadline. Yes, it's hard. There are many essential practices in many professions that are hard, but it's part of the job. As a working journalist, there are times when my beat explodes--major events to cover, travel, lots of things happening at once--but you work through it, because that's the job. | |
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| And have you never complained...? nm | |
| Posted by: | frankm 11:44 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - AC126748 10:21 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| nm | |
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| It's part of the job. | |
| Posted by: | AC126748 01:05 pm EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | And have you never complained...? nm - frankm 11:44 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| Accountants are incredibly busy in the weeks and months leading up to tax day. I'm sure they don't love putting in long hours, but they knew it was part of the job when they signed up. For as long as I can remember, March and April have featured a glut of Broadway openings in the lead-up to Tony season. If you're a reviewer who covers Broadway, it's your busiest time of the year, and the busy season means extra work. | |
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| And yet they complain! | |
| Posted by: | frankm 02:23 pm EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | It's part of the job. - AC126748 01:05 pm EDT 05/06/15 |
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| I know two CPAs. They knew going in that March and April, "Tax Season," would always be killer-busy for them. They knew it was part of the job, as you say. And yet...and yet...talk to them in March and April and they will complain and complain and complain. So I still don't see what your point is. People complain. Let them! | |
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| But no one in this forum EVER complains! | |
| Posted by: | MockingbirdGirl 03:12 pm EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | And yet they complain! - frankm 02:23 pm EDT 05/06/15 |
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| ;-) | |
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| Never, ever!!! nm | |
| Posted by: | frankm 03:30 pm EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | But no one in this forum EVER complains! - MockingbirdGirl 03:12 pm EDT 05/06/15 |
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| nm | |
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| re: Missing the point | |
| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 10:30 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - AC126748 10:21 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| Fair enough. But do we want our critics viewing our shows through the prism of being in a war zone? Considering how much value their experience carries, we might do well to consider their frustration. | |
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| Posted by: | AC126748 10:36 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - Singapore/Fling 10:30 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| That's a bit of a leap. I would never compare having to review five plays inside of a week to being embedded (and no journalist or critic should). But there are times when it's necessary to turn around a high volume of writing in a very short window, and this is something that every seasoned journalist should be comfortable doing. | |
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| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 11:05 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - AC126748 10:36 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| Sure. At the same time, they aren't necessarily journalists in the traditional sense. And while they are able to do their jobs as requested, it may not be to the benefit of these shows to crowd their plate. I go to a lot of plays and readings for my job. It gets exhausting in the high volume weeks. I try to not let it affect my reading of each play, but it can. The more level headed of the critics are simply stating that the economic consideration might adversely affect the response that critics give. Again, their words carry weight, and we might wish to heed their cautions. | |
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| re: Missing the point | |
| Posted by: | AC126748 11:18 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - Singapore/Fling 11:05 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| Everybody benefits from having extra time and a less hectic schedule. However, it's a luxury that is not always available. Whether or not you consider reviewers traditional journalists--I do--they have to function on the deadline system like the rest of us. Obviously when someone's assignment is to write a 3,000 word critical essay, they're given more time than a reviewer who has to see a show Tuesday, write his copy Wednesday, and turn it in for editing so that it can be published Thursday. But sometimes that's the job. | |
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| re: Missing the point | |
| Posted by: | Singapore/Fling 11:27 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - AC126748 11:18 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| I don't disagree with you. I do, though, see the possibility that we would get *better work* from these critics if their crunch period wasn't so intense. They can do their jobs; are we making those jobs needlessly complicated? It's a question that is worth considering, in light of the money that is on the line. | |
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| Posted by: | EvFoDr 10:11 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | Missing the point - NeoAdamite 10:04 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| That's mostly what I took from the article as well, although it seems some may just be complaining. I'm not a critic but before I moved to NYC I used to make marathon trips to see shows and often had the feeling that they all started to run together and by the end of the week I didn't always savor them the way I would like. I can see how this glut of essentially forced theatre-going AND critical analysis could be a hindrance to the critical process. Now I see theatre much more spaced out and it IS different. Because sometimes I end up seeing several shows in a week and that old feeling creeps in. | |
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| Posted by: | lowwriter 11:35 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - EvFoDr 10:11 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| I've doing a lot of marathon theater weekends this spring--I just got back from a five show trip in Chicago--and though I usually enjoy what I'm seeing, I don't have enough time to have the shows sink in and think about what I just saw. It's so tempting to experience all that's out there but maybe not the best way to experience shows individually. | |
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| Posted by: | enoch10 02:26 pm EDT 05/10/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - lowwriter 11:35 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| i think it depends on the person. i couldn't do marathon 6 shows in 5 day type things ether and expect to remember enough to make it worth my while but i have a friend who comes to town once or twice a year and does it and can recall deals from productions i hadn't thought of until reminded about them. as for this piece it comes off to me as typical reidel - take an idea and make up some quotes for a story on a week when you really don't have one. i know plenty of bloggers/journalists (real and quasi) covering theater for free who handle the pre-tony glut with neither complaints nor concern so i suspect the folks for whom this actually their job can manage at least just as easily. | |
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| Posted by: | Ann 10:22 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - EvFoDr 10:11 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| And imagine if you had to write reviews of then all! | |
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| Posted by: | EvFoDr 10:39 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - Ann 10:22 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| I know! I get worn out just reading them all. Seriously! | |
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| Posted by: | lowwriter 10:07 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | Missing the point - NeoAdamite 10:04 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| I do agree with Stasio about the shows hurting each other by opening at the same time. All these musicals opening one after another did no show any good. | |
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| Missing the point | |
| Posted by: | FinalPerformance 10:24 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Missing the point - lowwriter 10:07 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| Like ten pounds of chocolate eaten in one hour. Yuck. | |
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| Posted by: | twocents 10:49 am EDT 05/06/15 |
| In reply to: | Missing the point - FinalPerformance 10:24 am EDT 05/06/15 |
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| You can do it, Final! Hell, your London jaunt is legendary. | |
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