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re: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL

Posted by: AlanScott 09:43 am EDT 05/07/15
In reply to: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL - Draeigon 04:19 am EDT 05/07/15

"Fun Home, was very moving but formulaic with a limited universal perspective."

There are many possible criticisms of Fun Home, I am sure, but formulaic does not seem to me one of them. What do you perceive as being formulaic about it?

As ryhog said, there is only one round of Tony voting. Here is the rule on this matter:

"Where there are nine or more eligible shows in a Best Show category, at the Tony Nominating Meeting, the Nominating Committee will be instructed to cast one vote each for four eligible shows as nominees on his/her secret ballot. Such ballot shall be collected and tabulated by a representative of the Accounting Firm. The four eligible shows with the highest number of votes will automatically be designated as the nominees in such category. A fifth nominee shall be added to the category in the event that the Accounting Firm determines that the difference in votes between the fourth highest ranked show and the fifth highest ranked show is three votes or less."

Tony rules and regulations are linked below.

Link Tony Rules and Regulations

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re: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL

Posted by: Draeigon 07:05 pm EDT 05/07/15
In reply to: re: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL - AlanScott 09:43 am EDT 05/07/15

Sorry, maybe I was wrong referencing voting rounds...may have heard it wrong. Point being the two top vote getters were apparently F.HOME and VISIT.Though,I can not validate the people that said it nor do I know how they knew. Perhaps, best to have Said nothing.

At any rate, and this is just personal taste here, the use of the narrator seems a fairly eas way into a story. It is is a structural device that has been done to death. That is what stuck me as somewhat formulaic about Kron's book. However, as I believe I said, Fun Home was a fine, compelling show in my opinion, reservations aside


I hate to say it, in response to the post after yours, as much as I am revolted by john Simons hate based references, I do think he understands structure and exhibits a fair amount of intellegence. There was another critic who I believe has passed away. His name was Martin Gottfried. Smart critic, Hideous human being.... at least to the degree he revealed himself in his notices. Don't get it. They are New York Theater critics. Guess hate can live anywhere


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re: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL

Posted by: AlanScott 11:24 pm EDT 05/08/15
In reply to: re: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL - Draeigon 07:05 pm EDT 05/07/15

My take on Simon: He has a lot of knowledge, but little insight.

My take on Gottfried: He had some knowledge, but he understood very little indeed about anything. Perhaps he was an early champion of Sondheim, at one time I thought he had smart taste. The more I read of his work, the less I thought of him.

Unlike Walter Kerr (always an easy name to cite), with whom I often disagreed, but who I thought was both smart and knowledgeable.


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Walter Kerr

Posted by: Draeigon 11:40 pm EDT 05/08/15
In reply to: re: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL - AlanScott 11:24 pm EDT 05/08/15

An Kerr I thought was just a damn dood writer. Frequently disagreed with him as well but very articulate and often blisteringlyfunny. He was great at substantiating his position. I wrote a college paper on the demise of the Boulevard Comedy in relation to TV and read all of his play reviews in the 60's.

If you can find it, read his opening paragraphs on a completely forgotten little thing called ONCE FOR THE ASKING. It is hilarious and creates such a vivid impression of what that evening in the theater must have been like.


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re: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL

Posted by: enoch10 06:04 pm EDT 05/08/15
In reply to: re: Agree with his review: and THE VISIT wins BEST MUSICAL - Draeigon 07:05 pm EDT 05/07/15

you find FUN HOME formulaic because it has a narrator?


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