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re: Loved this show in '75, but... a bit rapey, no??

Posted by: Alcindoro 09:46 pm EDT 10/29/15
In reply to: Loved this show in '75, but... a bit rapey, no?? - dreambaby 09:34 pm EDT 10/29/15

This was done in San Diego in the early 80s with Brian [not yet Stokes] Mitchell in the lead. The show got protested and picketed by local feminist groups as being, as you put it, "rapey". (What a word.) The women in the show thought nothing of it, and audiences thoroughly enjoyed it. Take that as you may.


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re: Loved this show in '75, but... a bit rapey, no??

Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 02:49 pm EDT 10/30/15
In reply to: re: Loved this show in '75, but... a bit rapey, no?? - Alcindoro 09:46 pm EDT 10/29/15

"'Rapey.' (What a word.)"

I agree, it's a weird word that seems to trivialize the subject. Isn't this the word Gina Gershon used in explaining why the Shriners' ballet was cut from the horrendous BYE BYE BIRDIE revival?


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re: Loved this show in '75, but... a bit rapey, no??

Posted by: BruceinIthaca 10:36 pm EDT 10/29/15
In reply to: re: Loved this show in '75, but... a bit rapey, no?? - Alcindoro 09:46 pm EDT 10/29/15

I had this same discussion with a (male) scholar a summer ago, with regard to the Welty novella. I maintain that the language is metaphoric--"and he robbed her of what he had left the day before." It is a seduction, with Rosamond a willing participant--Welty (and Uhry as adaptor) uses the "rob" verb to maintain the fairy tale role of Jamie Lockhart. I would understand a reading of it as "rape," but it is presented as neither violent nor painful nor traumatic and would appear to be mutually pleasure.

And I can be very sensitive to "rapey" and "violence against women" in these classic texts--I still have a hard time with "Carousel" (probably my favorite musical), because it's hard not to see it as having Julie excuse Billy's violence--other than she doesn't "feel pain," because she knows how frustrated and upset he is at his inability to support them and be a good husband. Well, yes, but still... So I have to simply grit my teeth and live with the inconsistency--and that may also be the case "The Robber Bridegroom," which has been one of my favorite small musicals since I saw a production directed by a graduate student when I was at Northwestern decades ago.


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And besides ...

Posted by: Alcindoro 09:50 pm EDT 10/29/15
In reply to: re: Loved this show in '75, but... a bit rapey, no?? - Alcindoro 09:46 pm EDT 10/29/15

... WHEN are we going to get a responsibly produced issue of the Broadway album on CD???


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re: And besides ...

Posted by: LynnB 12:59 pm EDT 10/30/15
In reply to: And besides ... - Alcindoro 09:50 pm EDT 10/29/15

I have a CD of the Broadway album. Is there something about its production that I don't know?


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re: And besides ...

Posted by: falcon15 04:47 pm EDT 10/30/15
In reply to: re: And besides ... - LynnB 12:59 pm EDT 10/30/15

Other than it sounds like it was recorded in a bathroom and the extra tracks are all at the end instead of where they come in the show, no.


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re: And besides ...

Posted by: Delvino 07:11 pm EDT 10/30/15
In reply to: re: And besides ... - falcon15 04:47 pm EDT 10/30/15

Oh, I agree. It's just ghastly. It's startling how poorly done the transfer is.


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