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$149k for dames at sea

Posted by: dramedy 03:48 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: Broadway Grosses 11/1 —Mets, goblins & runners cut into ticket sales (but not Pacino) - jesse21 03:40 pm EST 11/02/15

That does look like it will close by January.

The drop for some shows in the quarter million range is pretty surprising.


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re: $149k for dames at sea

Posted by: ryhog 04:31 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: $149k for dames at sea - dramedy 03:48 pm EST 11/02/15

Halloween on Saturday is the worst case scenario and when combined with the World Series creates a perfect storm.

I don't see how Dames makes it to the holidays.


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re: $149k for dames at sea

Posted by: MichaelAS 04:40 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: re: $149k for dames at sea - ryhog 04:31 pm EST 11/02/15

How in the world did "On The Town" run for almost a FULL year when you (& others) had it continuously closing WEEKL to WEEK?
Miracles do happen, I guess!


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re: $149k for dames at sea

Posted by: ryhog 04:55 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: re: $149k for dames at sea - MichaelAS 04:40 pm EST 11/02/15

You are a little confused (at least as it relates to me): I never "had it closing" because I understood that the producers were lunatics. What I said over and over was that it (like various other terribly produced shows with deep pockets) SHOULD close and WOULD close only when the landlord kicked them to the curb. The difference for Dames is that I don't think they have pockets that deep.


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re: $149k for dames at sea

Posted by: keikekaze 04:45 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: re: $149k for dames at sea - MichaelAS 04:40 pm EST 11/02/15

The last On the Town revival had producers with very deep pockets and who apparently didn't care how much money the show lost. That won't be the case with most shows.


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re: $149k for dames at sea

Posted by: JAllenC3 04:47 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: re: $149k for dames at sea - keikekaze 04:45 pm EST 11/02/15

Plus the Helen Hayes is a more desirable theater. No one was in a hurry to take the Lyric, but a lot of people probably want the Hayes.


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Halloween always this rough?: $142k for Hand to God - 22 of 33 shows drop by 6 figures! nm

Posted by: MichaelAS 04:25 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: $149k for dames at sea - dramedy 03:48 pm EST 11/02/15

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re: Halloween always this rough?: $142k for Hand to God - 22 of 33 shows drop by 6 figures! nm

Posted by: WaHiGuy 06:07 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: Halloween always this rough?: $142k for Hand to God - 22 of 33 shows drop by 6 figures! nm - MichaelAS 04:25 pm EST 11/02/15

It was the triple whammy of a Halloween two-performance day, the marathon and the switch to daylight savings time, which in-explicitly always causes a dip in sales.

Some have cited the Mets world series game, but I wonder how much cross-over effect that had?


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extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake

Posted by: dramedy 05:23 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: Halloween always this rough?: $142k for Hand to God - 22 of 33 shows drop by 6 figures! nm - MichaelAS 04:25 pm EST 11/02/15

But I'm sure the producers knew the risk. I think Forbes article reported a $270k weekly. If you take into account the grosses reported have to have 8- 10% taken off, the show has lost money all fall even if they were able to adjust the weekly nut a little lower. They probavly should have done a mini tour in some select cities in the fall and then go to London.

Link http://www.broadwayworld.com/grosses/HAND-TO-GOD

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re: extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake

Posted by: JAllenC3 09:23 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake - dramedy 05:23 pm EST 11/02/15

I think the prospect of Bob Saget over the holidays made them more willing to take the risk until he started.


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re: extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake

Posted by: StageLover 10:06 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake - JAllenC3 09:23 am EST 11/03/15

Unless your show is dying or really losing money, producers want that lucrative last quarter of the year.

Seeing that the producer of HAND is also the producer of HAMILTON, SOMETHING ROTTEN, etc., do you really think you know something he doesn't?


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re: extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake

Posted by: ryhog 12:35 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake - StageLover 10:06 am EST 11/03/15

The producer of HTG is most definitely not a producer of Hamilton. He is of SR.


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re: extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake

Posted by: writerkev 11:03 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: extending hand to God into the fall was a huge mistake - StageLover 10:06 am EST 11/03/15

You are exaggerating by a lot when you say "lucrative last quarter of the year." The final three months have many ups and downs. In fact, the first couple weeks of December are typically soft as people have so many competing activities. The final two weeks of the year are always boffo, but in no way is the last quarter of the year anything a producer can be confident about.


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2014: 31/14. 2013 25/31.

Posted by: sirpupnyc 04:54 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: Halloween always this rough?: $142k for Hand to God - 22 of 33 shows drop by 6 figures! nm - MichaelAS 04:25 pm EST 11/02/15

Not quite as uniformly dramatic drops dollar-wise, but yes.


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re: 2014: 31/14. 2013 25/31.

Posted by: WaHiGuy 06:08 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: 2014: 31/14. 2013 25/31. - sirpupnyc 04:54 pm EST 11/02/15

Having Halloween 2015 hit on a two-performance day was no help


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34, not 14 nm

Posted by: sirpupnyc 04:54 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: 2014: 31/14. 2013 25/31. - sirpupnyc 04:54 pm EST 11/02/15

nm


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