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Posted by: garyd 09:39 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: Do Movie Musicals Give Musicals a Bad Name? - DCollingwood 09:20 pm EST 11/02/15

One can not make someone "like" musicals be they stage or film. I don't understand why some do not care for the genre but they simply do not. "It's a mystery".


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Posted by: DCollingwood 01:07 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: Let It Go... - garyd 09:39 pm EST 11/02/15

I'll never let it go. I'm too stubborn :)


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Posted by: ryhog 01:02 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: Let It Go... - garyd 09:39 pm EST 11/02/15

I don't think nearly so many people dislike musicals as dislike the music. But the two have been so closely wed for so long that the term musical itself has morphed into a description of a style. I for one love the idea of musical theatre-I've always thought of it as 2 for the price of 1-but I have always felt that the genre got off track around the time Bernstein decided to wander off and although there are exceptions in my mind, there is a lot that has followed that just doesn't appeal to me. Why did it not send me over the cliff? That's a mystery but honestly I think my broader love of the theatre has always left me with optimism that the musical theatre would right itself. I've long wondered if we would ever get something like Hamilton in my lifetime, although I remained optimistic. And I think if Miranda is the Bernstein of this generation, maybe the genre can get back on course.


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Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 11:31 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: Let It Go... - garyd 09:39 pm EST 11/02/15

I always find it interesting when some people say they hate musicals but they make a few exceptions, like WEST SIDE STORY or GUYS AND DOLLS or whatever. That always makes me think, "Well, if you like even one musical, there are probably at least a few others you would like if you gave them a chance."


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Posted by: garyd 11:44 pm EST 11/02/15
In reply to: re: Let It Go... - Michael_Portantiere 11:31 pm EST 11/02/15

lol, true. However, more often than not, at least in my experience, when pushed on why they like the exceptions, my momentary optimism is quickly deflated.


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Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 11:02 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: Let It Go... - garyd 11:44 pm EST 11/02/15

"More often than not, at least in my experience, when pushed on why they like the exceptions, my momentary optimism is quickly deflated."

Interesting. But both of the examples I gave, WEST SIDE STORY and GUYS AND DOLLS, are great shows. If people who don't like musicals in general say they like WSS because they think it's "cool," or say they like GUYS AND DOLLS because it's so funny, I think that's valid. And, as I said, I'm pretty sure there are other shows they'd like if they were exposed to them and gave them a chance.


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Posted by: ryhog 12:34 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: Let It Go... - Michael_Portantiere 11:02 am EST 11/03/15

"I'm pretty sure there are other shows they'd like if they were exposed to them and gave them a chance."

That's really a big part of my point above: for the last couple of generations, much of the population has pigeonholed musical theatre in much the same way many musical theatre fans have pigeonholed rap (or, more generally, "rock" or "pop"). What is significant (in both directions) is when something comes along that results in some cross-fertilization. Hamilton does both.


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