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The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: kieran 11:34 pm EST 11/02/15

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Link Lin-Manuel Miranda

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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: jero 06:28 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: The annotated "Hamilton" - kieran 11:34 pm EST 11/02/15

well that helps put things in perspective a bit for me. thank you. I wasn't aware of an ulterior motive when I was watching this. it's getting clearer


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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: SuzanneR 05:32 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - jero 06:28 am EST 11/03/15

What do you mean by an ulterior motive?


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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: jero 06:15 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - SuzanneR 05:32 pm EST 11/03/15

part of his goal was to celebrate, promote and honor the rap/spoken word form... not just create a broadway musical as I'd assumed


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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: SuzanneR 07:42 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - jero 06:15 pm EST 11/03/15

I don't see that as an ulterior motive. I think most composers want to celebrate/promote/honor their musical style....


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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: MikeR 06:46 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - jero 06:15 pm EST 11/03/15

Is there a composer who has written a musical whose goals don't include celebrating, promoting, and honoring the form in which he/she chooses to write?


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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: jero (jrossmrv@comcast.net) 08:09 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - MikeR 06:46 pm EST 11/03/15

this is getting tedious. if anyone would like to go more in depth my email is below. my name is jerry


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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: 2hrsOfJustPow 01:15 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: The annotated "Hamilton" - kieran 11:34 pm EST 11/02/15

Why not just engrave every word he writes on Stone Tablets? :)


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"Why not just engrave every word he writes on Stone Tablets?"

Posted by: NeoAdamite 10:18 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - 2hrsOfJustPow 01:15 am EST 11/03/15

Be careful what you wish for.

Link Why not just engrave every word he writes on Stone Tablets? :)

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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: simbo 05:27 am EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - 2hrsOfJustPow 01:15 am EST 11/03/15

Why not just enjoy that a musical theatre person is having mainstream success for the first time in ages?

Incidentally, have a look at the other annotations. It's a fairly wide-ranging bunch of modern performers who get them, it's not a uniquely Miranda phenomenon.

Or alternatively, you can much on the sour grapes a bit more.


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re: The annotated "Hamilton"

Posted by: EveryLittleChore 01:23 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - simbo 05:27 am EST 11/03/15

Thank you, simbo. I cannot fathom what is feeding this Hamilton and Miranda bashing, but it speaks so poorly of the bashers. Perhaps they need a 12-step group to help rid them of their gushing resentment. Celebrate someone's success, for Pete's sake, and then go make your own so we can celebrate you.


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The backlash was inevitable, perhaps, but still...

Posted by: Delvino 05:25 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: re: The annotated "Hamilton" - EveryLittleChore 01:23 pm EST 11/03/15

..sometimes oddly sour. Baffling.

I certainly remember similar responses to other works, in particular (I'm picking but examples) RENT, SPRING AWAKENING, and to a certain extent FUN HOME this past summer. All employ contemporary musical lexicon/idiom; yet all are solid theater pieces, conceived for the stage from the ground up. To members of the naysaying theatrical chatterati, vocally weary of the recycled and re-tooled: all four shows took compelling source material and radically transformed it. After all the kvetching about the juke-boxing of B'way, the need for old school musical theater values, I would hope that HAMILTON would be embraced for being in a grand tradition, even among those less passionate about its brilliant nooks and crannies. If Leonard Bernstein were alive, I will go out on limb and say he might be the first in line to cheer Miranda's masterwork. Certainly it's a worthy descendant of WEST SIDE STORY, to name but one distinctly American piece of musical storytelling among its influences.

Of course, I believe a percentage of people buying tickets are racing to get the next big thing, not necessarily invested in the the subject, the musical style, or the advancement of the art form; it doesn't matter, most of them are thrilled and moved. I saw an elderly couple wiping tears after "It's Quiet Uptown." Somebody will always experience any entertainment phenom du jour -- particularly at $600 a pop purchased months in advance -- as overrated.


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re: The backlash was inevitable, perhaps, but still...

Posted by: Ann 05:34 pm EST 11/03/15
In reply to: The backlash was inevitable, perhaps, but still... - Delvino 05:25 pm EST 11/03/15

What difference does it make? Nothing and no one gets universal praise. Even Angela Lansbury has her "naysayers."

Enjoy what you enjoy.


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