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The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands.
Last Edit: Delvino 05:22 pm EDT 07/03/17
Posted by: Delvino 05:21 pm EDT 07/03/17
In reply to: re: What is wrong with people? - ptownguy 04:15 pm EDT 07/03/17

The downside of "premium": entitlement.

This is part of a new normal. You pay outrageous fees for tickets -- some now $2000 for an orchestra premium seat (I know someone in Portland, OR who did) -- and once you attend, you OWN the experience. And the experience -- and those involved -- are yours as long as you're in the vicinity of the Music box. If you want him to come outside and shake your hand, sign a Playbill, or agree to perform magic tricks and little Riley's next birthday party, he'd better do it, or they will turn, in an instant.
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re: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands.
Posted by: Ann 05:55 pm EDT 07/03/17
In reply to: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands. - Delvino 05:21 pm EDT 07/03/17

I'm sure that has added a dimension, but entitled-feeling stage door visitors existed long before premium prices. I saw some horrible behavior in the 1990s that turned me off of wanting to be anywhere near the stage door.
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re: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands.
Posted by: Delvino 09:04 pm EDT 07/03/17
In reply to: re: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands. - Ann 05:55 pm EDT 07/03/17

I also think this public shaming of the actor really is the new add-on to the syndrome. This ability to vent supposed grievances in a public forum. If actors don't respond or appear, they are called out and the outrage becomes a virtual town square vilification. It has escalated, yeah. Even 15 years ago, we didn't have venue for the public humiliation.
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re: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands.
Posted by: Ann 09:07 pm EDT 07/03/17
In reply to: re: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands. - Delvino 09:04 pm EDT 07/03/17

Well, there were theatre message boards 15 years ago ;) (and, honestly, we've had a few threads started by people posting similar complaints about stage door behavior, though it's been awhile.)
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The rarefied niche of board is not Twitter.
Last Edit: Delvino 09:12 pm EDT 07/03/17
Posted by: Delvino 09:11 pm EDT 07/03/17
In reply to: re: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands. - Ann 09:07 pm EDT 07/03/17

Sorry, I don't think there's any comparison in being able to post negatives in a niche/bubble, and public postings with (quantifiable:) thousands of readers, cross-referencing and even ad hominem communiques. I can attack a star here, and the star and even most of his or her fans may never know. I can attack the same star on Twitter, and it's news in seconds. Witness, this story.
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It was different 15 years ago
Last Edit: Ann 11:34 pm EDT 07/03/17
Posted by: Ann 11:27 pm EDT 07/03/17
In reply to: The rarefied niche of board is not Twitter. - Delvino 09:11 pm EDT 07/03/17

... or even a little later when we were threatened by a Broadway star with legal action because of something someone posted here.

But, really, I did include a smiley on purpose. It wasn't even close to the magnitude of Twitter.
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I forget. My sincere apology.
Posted by: Delvino 07:35 am EDT 07/04/17
In reply to: It was different 15 years ago - Ann 11:27 pm EDT 07/03/17

I was rather humorless in the whole thread, or came off that way, and I apologize. (One of the hardest things to get right: tone.) My attempt to split a hair over the difference between boards/blogs and Twitter -- to you! -- was especially presumptuous and entirely laughable.
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re: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands.
Posted by: PurpleMoney 05:26 pm EDT 07/03/17
In reply to: The new expectation: Not artistic standards but consumer demands. - Delvino 05:21 pm EDT 07/03/17

Producers of DEH could offer meet and greet tickets for $2500 with a photo op and a mention on Broadway.com.
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