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| I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 11:29 am EDT 07/05/17 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 11:28 am EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: Hello, Dolly!: Will Donna Murphy be Bette's Replacement in January? - Zelgo 11:19 am EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| If it extends, my guess is tv or movie star as replacement. | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: portenopete 01:06 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - dramedy 11:28 am EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Just like Merrick! Until Merman, not one of Channing's Broadway successors was (primarily) a Broadway star, right? | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 11:45 am EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - dramedy 11:28 am EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Which is, of course, the precedent in this role. In the original production only Merman was primarily known as Broadway star, although Bailey had appeared in Broadway shows many years before. Of the significant Dollys on the road, I don't think any of them (except for Mary Martin and, of course, Channing herself) were primarily known for their work on the stage. It's interesting to think that many of the Dollys in the original production and tours were movies stars whose careers had petered out a decade or two prior to them taking on Dolly. If we look at the equivalent time period, we'd be looking for movie (or now TV) actresses whose major careers were coming to a close in the mid-to-late 90's through the mid 2000's. Seems like yesterday for me, as I'm sure they heydays of those Dolly actresses did to audiences of the 1960's. It's difficult for me to assess who might be an equivalent sort of name today, someone who likely was a huge star in the 1980's, but who faded from the limelight by the mid-90's or so and who would be capable of doing it, interested in doing it, and would sell tickets. I wonder how much of a gamble it was for David Merrick to take a chance on each one of these old movie queens and if there was significant doubt as to whether or not they would sell tickets or if the idea was a slam dunk once he'd thought of it? |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: MattPhilly 12:17 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - JereNYC 11:45 am EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| I keep thinking Bette's First Wive's Club costar, Goldie Hawn, would be fabulous in this. Different from Bette, but a great take. And she very much fits the bill of the type of star you described. | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 12:43 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - MattPhilly 12:17 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Hawn would be a great choice if she were interested. Has she ever sung live though? I saw her in her recent film with Amy Schumer and she's still got it. I was shocked to read that it was her first film in many years. |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 12:16 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - JereNYC 11:45 am EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| It is not hard to come up with a list of possible replacements. If we are starting a pool, I want dibs on Fran Dresher. |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: FleetStreetBarber 12:58 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - whereismikeyfl 12:16 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| And I want dibs on Marilyn Maye. | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 12:47 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - whereismikeyfl 12:16 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Drescher would be an interesting choice if she sings. Does she sing? She has always seemed to me to be an actress of limited range, but with the brilliance to make that range really work for her instead of against her. I can really see her in the role...but can't really visualize her tackling the score. | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: sirpupnyc 01:08 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - JereNYC 12:47 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| She did the Cinderella revival for five months. No idea if that means she can sing, though. I've tried to block it out, so I don't even remember if Madame (the stepmother, right?) had a lot of singing to do. | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: Vectorbabe 01:26 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - sirpupnyc 01:08 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| I did a quick search of actresses from the 1980s and 90s. They don't have Bette Midler's rabid fan base, they serve the same function as the myriad of Dollys Merrick put in after Channing. A few of my picks: Michelle Pfeiffer (my favorite choice) Diane Keaton (my next favorite) Kim Basinger Emma Thompson Geena Davis Sharon Stone Meg Ryan Jessica Lange Jamie Lee Curtin Sigourney Weaver Sissy Spacek Drew Barrymore |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 04:06 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - Vectorbabe 01:26 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Great list! For realism I think Barrymore has to come off. She was the only star in Woody Allen's movie musical who demanded being dubbed. If she can't sing a relatively simple song in a recording studio with multiple takes to get it right, she certainly can't sing this score live multiple times a week! For the record, I like her. :-) | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: SidL 03:44 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - Vectorbabe 01:26 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| I thought about Diane Keaton as well and next year will be the 50th Anniversary of HAIR playing on Broadway. | |
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| Michelle Pfeiffer!!??## | |
| Posted by: Jax 02:57 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - Vectorbabe 01:26 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| The hottie of all time who crawled across a piano into screen history in "The Fabulous Baker Boys?" As Dolly on a trolley to Yonkers, with a bustle and some hustle?? Oh please!! As Desiree Armfeldt, absolutely. As Norma Desmond, if she can stretch her vocal chords, for sure. But I don't wanna see La Pfeiffer handing out business cards and chomping on a turkey leg. And I don't want to see Bette Midler play Catwoman either. | |
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| If it was good enough for Betty Grable | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 08:42 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: Michelle Pfeiffer!!??## - Jax 02:57 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| who was the biggest pin-up during WWII and a huge sex symbo movie star, why not for Pfeiffer? Though Pfeiffer would actually be a better Mame, a much harder to cast role. | |
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| re: If it was good enough for Betty Grable | |
| Posted by: Jax 01:35 am EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: If it was good enough for Betty Grable - PlayWiz 08:42 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Betty Grable reeked of vaudeville, which made her perfect for Dolly. Pfeiffer would be ill cast as either Mame or Dolly. She's a Sondheim type, not a Herman Gal. She needs to be in Company, Follies, or Night Music if she decides to do a musical. | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: winters 01:32 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - Vectorbabe 01:26 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| And which of these names would sell tickets? | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 01:39 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - winters 01:32 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| That's the thing though...part of the question I was asking. If it's 1965 and you're in David Merrick's office and he comes up with a list of possible replacements for Channing that includes names like Ginger Rogers and Betty Grable, would you have had the exact same reaction? Would these old broads from the movies actually sell any tickets? If you can see SWING TIME or MOON OVER MIAMI on the late show any night of week, will people pay to see them in DOLLY? | |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: winters 01:47 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - JereNYC 01:39 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| I see what you are saying but....that audience would consist of women over forty (and their husbands) and gays boys. For any of them this would be an opportunity to see a real live movie star. Maybe from the past but still mostly women of glamour. Today, going back twenty or thirty years: not so much. |
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| re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 01:37 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - winters 01:32 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| And which of these names would actually sign on to be a replacement in a musical. | |
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| Rudin is a powerful producer | |
| Posted by: dramedy 02:02 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I doubt that it will be a broadway star - whereismikeyfl 01:37 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| And does movies. I could see a star doing it to greenlight their next project. | |
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