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| Posted by: Ann 04:27 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - PlayWiz 03:54 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Of course, had he lived, he would likely have done some work on the show after/during the Off-Broadway production and he may have fixed the flaws. | |
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| re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 04:33 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - Ann 04:27 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| But the director pretty much froze the work and refused to do another further work on it, as if Ethel "Miss Birdseye" Merman had frozen fooded it. | |
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| re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders | |
| Last Edit: Ann 05:05 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| Posted by: Ann 05:04 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - PlayWiz 04:33 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Do you mean after Larson died? I thought Greif has said the show was unfinished and it would have been different had Larson lived longer. And Larson said, "All shows open being a little unfinished; that’s why they have previews, to suss out what works and what doesn’t." | |
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| re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 06:08 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - Ann 05:04 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| True... but we have to also accept that many of the things critics at the time, or in retrospect, find to be flaws and problems may not be what Larson saw as problems or things he would have changed. Remember, he only died like 2.5 months before Rent started previews, which means little over a month before it went into rehearsals for the Broadway transfer... I think it's safer to assume that they opened largely the same show they would have had he not died too soon to keep making revisions. I do believe he was smart and talented enough that in previews he would have seen some things to revise and done so for the betterment of the final product... but he did see it many many times in front of an audience just a couple months before this, and was surely making the revisions he thought he wanted based on that experience, and Greif surely got them or had access to the ones that were written out before Larson died or after. I'm sure somewhere the details of all of this are researched and documented... I'm surprised there isn't a Rent documentary actually. |
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| re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders | |
| Posted by: Ann 06:26 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - Chazwaza 06:08 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| I thought there was a documentary - it's included with the film version, I think. I don't think we can assume anything about what it would have been - but there are many possibilities. Wasn't the workshop version up for only a few weeks, and weren't a lot of changes made between that version and 1996? I don't see why it's not likely/very possible more changes would have been made. Seems before shows got super computer/technically driven, more changes were made. I don't know what the general thought is on flaws, but, for me, there's only one glaring one. |
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| re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 06:49 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - Ann 06:26 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| What's the one glaring one for you?! | |
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| re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders | |
| Posted by: Ann 07:14 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - Chazwaza 06:49 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Mimi's resurrection. | |
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| re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 12:59 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - Ann 07:14 pm EDT 07/05/17 | |
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| Same. But I might be more ok with it if I didn't hate the way it's done and the dialogue during it. It's hard to reconcile because I LOVE the "No Day But Today / Without You" reprise round that Mimi's resurrection inspires. | |
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| re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 07:04 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Tony-winning Best Musicals: One-hit wonders - Chazwaza 12:59 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| I just finished rereading Sarah Schulman's book STAGE STRUCK, which many, I'm sure, know is her escorting take on RENT, both for its use of her novel PEOPLE IN TROUBLE and for its heteronormalizing of the AIDS epidemic. I always thought it was a cheat and disrespectful to queer people and to BOHEME to resurrect Mimi (particularly as it seems to be at the expense of Angel, who is a bit of the Musette character--"bury your gays," as the saying is). I know Schulman's book is controversial, but I was persuaded by its largest points this time. | |
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