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| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 05:23 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: St Bridget - throwaway - bearcat 04:34 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| In Tenderloin "Bless This Land" which leads into "Little Old New York". In On the Town "I Feel Like I'm Not Out of Bed Yet" which leads into "New York, New York". In Carousel "You're a Queer One, Julie Jordan" which leads into "Mister Snow". |
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| re: St Bridget - throwaway | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 07:15 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - BroadwayTonyJ 05:23 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| Two good examples, but I would think of the "Carousel Waltz" sequence as the opening number of Carousel. Anyway, I think of "You're a Queer One, Julie Jordan" as being part of "Mister Snow."That's how it is in the piano-vocal score (or at least the old one) and in the current licensed script. What about the "Bobby Bobby" sequence in Company? Do we think of "The Pajama Game" as being separate from "Racing With the Clock" or do they together make up one full opening number? Then there's "I'm Like the Bluebird" in Anyone Can Whistle, which we don't even hear complete until the third act. And since the OP started with Jerry Herman, what about the little bit commonly called "Call on Dolly" (but listed just as "Opening Act I" in the score) but rarely listed as a separate number in programs (or at least not in programs for the Broadway productions of the show)? And there's the offstage chorus "Once in the Highlands." If you don't count "Runyonland" (often cut way down nowadays to the point that it barely exists) I'd say that "Fugue for Tinhorns" counts. It's short. It's really just a throwaway number, albeit a famous one. |
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| re: St Bridget - throwaway | |
| Posted by: bmc 11:16 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - AlanScott 07:15 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| I did not know there was a Guys and Dolls Overture 'till the Jay recording. I thought the show opened 'cold with Runyonland. | |
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| re: St Bridget - throwaway | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 11:26 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - bmc 11:16 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| And of course what passes as "Runyonland" on the OBC is only a tiny portion of it. Nice to have the complete thing on the JAY recording. (And I do wish they'd find a way to release their still unreleased complete recordings - a few years ago we were teased with another track from the Anyone Can Whistle recording we've been promised for decades now...but...still no complete release.) In the show context it's also cool because the Overture leads directly into Runyonland with no stop, and likewise Tinhorns follows with no stop before it. And although Tinhorns has a definite ending, Follow The Fold starts up right after. So - all of that without one line of dialogue yet. |
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| re: St Bridget - throwaway | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 08:19 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - AlanScott 07:15 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| Also, "Po, Po, Po" a short introductory number just preceding "Piraeus, My Love" in Illya, Darling. And the two brief opening numbers "Swing Song" and "Yasni Kozkolai" before "My Family Tree" in The Girl Who Came to Supper |
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| re: St Bridget - throwaway | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 05:36 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - BroadwayTonyJ 05:23 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| In Carousel "You're a Queer One, Julie Jordan" which leads into "Mister Snow". I might debate that one, only because it does get used again at the start of the Bench Scene. So the two uses of the song, within minutes of each other, create something stronger. I might compare it to something I was almost going to mention in my first post, then decided not to - in City Of Angels, we get three rather short numbers called "Double Talk" - sung by Stone, Alaura, and Buddy, before getting to the "real" number as sung by Stine. We could either count those first 3 fragments as "false starts" in a sense, or we can see them as part of a sequence leading to the full number finally sung by Stine. |
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| re: St Bridget - throwaway | |
| Posted by: bearcat 05:35 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - BroadwayTonyJ 05:23 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| Ethan Morrden says that "You're A Queer One, JJ" is the most oddly titled in the songbook, but I say there is also "The Octopus Song" (Fanny) and "Ooh My Feet" (Most Happy Fella) and these are all first songs... |
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| re: St Bridget - throwaway Mame was( according to the ever reliable Mr Mordden?) going to open with a dance in the Men's Gym. | |
| Posted by: bmc 05:58 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
| In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - bearcat 05:35 pm EDT 07/06/17 | |
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| When Josh Logan was going to direct My Best Girl(starring Mary Martin), the show would have opened in a gym where P..Dennis Sr, had the heart attack, that left little Patrick Dennis with Auntie Mame as his only living relative, or perhaps that was just a jest | |
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