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re: St Bridget - throwaway
Posted by: AlanScott 07:15 pm EDT 07/06/17
In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - BroadwayTonyJ 05:23 pm EDT 07/06/17

Two good examples, but I would think of the "Carousel Waltz" sequence as the opening number of Carousel. Anyway, I think of "You're a Queer One, Julie Jordan" as being part of "Mister Snow."That's how it is in the piano-vocal score (or at least the old one) and in the current licensed script.

What about the "Bobby Bobby" sequence in Company?

Do we think of "The Pajama Game" as being separate from "Racing With the Clock" or do they together make up one full opening number?

Then there's "I'm Like the Bluebird" in Anyone Can Whistle, which we don't even hear complete until the third act.

And since the OP started with Jerry Herman, what about the little bit commonly called "Call on Dolly" (but listed just as "Opening Act I" in the score) but rarely listed as a separate number in programs (or at least not in programs for the Broadway productions of the show)?

And there's the offstage chorus "Once in the Highlands."

If you don't count "Runyonland" (often cut way down nowadays to the point that it barely exists) I'd say that "Fugue for Tinhorns" counts. It's short. It's really just a throwaway number, albeit a famous one.
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re: St Bridget - throwaway
Posted by: bmc 11:16 pm EDT 07/06/17
In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - AlanScott 07:15 pm EDT 07/06/17

I did not know there was a Guys and Dolls Overture 'till the Jay recording. I thought the show opened 'cold with Runyonland.
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re: St Bridget - throwaway
Posted by: Chromolume 11:26 pm EDT 07/06/17
In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - bmc 11:16 pm EDT 07/06/17

And of course what passes as "Runyonland" on the OBC is only a tiny portion of it. Nice to have the complete thing on the JAY recording. (And I do wish they'd find a way to release their still unreleased complete recordings - a few years ago we were teased with another track from the Anyone Can Whistle recording we've been promised for decades now...but...still no complete release.)

In the show context it's also cool because the Overture leads directly into Runyonland with no stop, and likewise Tinhorns follows with no stop before it. And although Tinhorns has a definite ending, Follow The Fold starts up right after. So - all of that without one line of dialogue yet.
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re: St Bridget - throwaway
Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 08:19 pm EDT 07/06/17
In reply to: re: St Bridget - throwaway - AlanScott 07:15 pm EDT 07/06/17

Also, "Po, Po, Po" a short introductory number just preceding "Piraeus, My Love" in Illya, Darling.

And the two brief opening numbers "Swing Song" and "Yasni Kozkolai" before "My Family Tree" in The Girl Who Came to Supper
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