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David Kaufman on Theater Talk
Posted by: MarjorieMae 12:33 pm EDT 07/09/17

He was discussing his bio on Mary Martin. He mentioned the idea for The Sound of Music came from Martin after seeing a German documentary about the Trapped family. I've see the film on YouTube. It is not a documentary. Maybe a docudrama but it was definitely not with the real Trapps. It was made in the 50's and the Trapp "kids" were all adults by then. I found the program spent too much time on Martin's (and her husband's) sexuality (quelle surprise, there are gay people in showbiz!) which meant less time to discuss her work.Nice to see Sondra Lee. No Time, of course, to talk about Dolly. Or was this a re-run from before the revival opened? Would love to hear her take on the revival since she worked with Champion, etc al on the original. Maybe they'll ask her back.
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re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk
Posted by: CCentero 03:38 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: David Kaufman on Theater Talk - MarjorieMae 12:33 pm EDT 07/09/17

You're right about the German film not being a documentary--it's not even a docudrama. Hard as Martin worked in South Pacific, Kaufman's not really correct about Nellie being on the stage practically the whole time. I thought Sondra Lee was absolutely delightful and more interesting and astute about Martin than Kaufman. As with his Doris Day book, he throws lots of stuff together without really being able to articulate why he's talking about his subject in the first place.
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re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk
Posted by: JohnDunlop 11:33 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk - CCentero 03:38 pm EDT 07/09/17

About a decade ago, I met one of the people who is quoted often in Kaufman's book. She appeared in three shows with Mary and one with Ethel Merman. She was much kinder in discussing Martin being aloof from the cast. She got to really know Mary only much later when they both lived in Rancho Mirage.

I am confused about the negative comments about Kaufman.

Martin's life was complicated, especially her marriage to Halliday. Even Martin touches on it in her autobiography. But, on talk shows, Martin talked about her Halliday marriage as ideal. Mary Martin may have been unknowable to Sondra Lee, but not to Paul Gregory, Janet Gaynor's last husband, who greatly disliked Mary.
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re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk
Posted by: JohnDunlop 09:20 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk - CCentero 03:38 pm EDT 07/09/17

I agree with you about Kaufman and do not remember him suggesting in the book that Martin may have been asexual. Kaufman did write that Martin may have married a gay man (Richard Halliday) because she did not enjoy so much sex with her first husband, Ben Hagman.

Frankly, I moved the subject away from Maria von Trapp because it's been common knowledge for decades that the film was not a documentary. Common knowledge to me perhaps because I saw the Sound of Music in 1960
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re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk
Posted by: CCentero 09:30 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk - JohnDunlop 09:20 pm EDT 07/09/17

Sondra Lee opined that Martin was probably asexual on the show.

Our problem with Kaufman saying that it was a documentary is that it makes him sound far less authoritative. Anyone who knows the von Trapp story knows why the German drama is pivotal.
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re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk
Posted by: JohnDunlop 11:08 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk - CCentero 09:30 pm EDT 07/09/17

I watched the show again. It was Kaufman who made the point about Mary being asexual.

You are right about Kaufman saying the von Trapp film was a documentary. However, in his book, Kaufman quotes Richard Rodgers, as follows, "The German picture had very little singing in it, was more or less a dramatic story about the Trapp family." Either way. Kaufman spoke incorrectly on Theater Talk I agree that it is a major mistake.
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re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk
Last Edit: CCentero 11:53 pm EDT 07/09/17
Posted by: CCentero 11:46 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk - JohnDunlop 11:08 pm EDT 07/09/17

Lee also said it toward the end of the interview.

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re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk
Posted by: JohnDunlop 12:01 am EDT 07/10/17
In reply to: re: David Kaufman on Theater Talk - CCentero 11:46 pm EDT 07/09/17

Sondra Lee strongly statement by far was that she barely knew Martin.
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The Trapp Family Story
Posted by: MarjorieMae 12:49 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: David Kaufman on Theater Talk - MarjorieMae 12:33 pm EDT 07/09/17

Here's the link if you care to view the film.
Link Trapp Family Story
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re: The Trapp Family Story
Last Edit: bmc 08:09 pm EDT 07/09/17
Posted by: bmc 08:02 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: The Trapp Family Story - MarjorieMae 12:49 pm EDT 07/09/17

The German film( about the von Trapps) was bought by 20th Fox and released in American theaters; It followed the Trapps , as narrated in Mrs Trapps, bio, right up until they purchased property in Vermont(The hills reminded the family of Austria).........I saw Sondra Lee, one row ahead of Me, at little Foxes; I couldn't find my copy of her bio(facetiously titled "I've Slept with every body: a memoir")so I ordered a new one . -It's available on Amazon - Lots of behind the scenes on Dolly, Pan, and High Button Shoes.
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re: The Trapp Family Story
Posted by: MarjorieMae 10:08 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: re: The Trapp Family Story - bmc 08:02 pm EDT 07/09/17

I read somewhere that there were 2 films. One about Austria and another when they came to America. The films were later edited into 1 film which is the version I found on YouTube.
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re: The Trapp Family Story
Posted by: bmc 10:21 pm EDT 07/09/17
In reply to: re: The Trapp Family Story - MarjorieMae 10:08 pm EDT 07/09/17

Baron Von Trapp calls a family meeting. Would the children want to invest Everything they have into a Bank' ,owned by a family friend, that's in rough
shape.If the banks stabilizes, many of their friends and neighbors will 'save' their savings...... They invested all in the friends bank...The bank went kaput,leaving the von Trapps in poor shape; To save money, they rented out rooms; The diocese of Salzburg helped them out by sending seminarians to stay; With the seminarians came Fr Franz Wasner as their chaplain; He was very musical, and helped organize the family into a singing group, and he travelled with them to the states. He was not in Sound of Music; I suppose when you're streamling the story for the stage,; all those nuns AND a priest might have been considered too much.'
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