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| Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 03:09 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 03:02 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
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| People tend to overlook Doris Day's dancing-- but she certainly was a triple threat. Of course, Doris started as a dancer; when she was in an auto accident, she started to concentrate on her voice during her convalescence. But other big film musical stars didn't do such intricate tap -- I never saw Barbra Streisand, Ethel Merman or Julie Andrews do it for instance, though I've seen a clip of Andrews doing some tap on a tv show with Gene Kelly. Judy Garland did some tap, though nothing I can recall with such intricacy. Jane Powell, yes, with Fred Astaire in "Royal Wedding", absolutely wonderfully in "Why Did You Believe Me....", and Ann Miller, Mitzi Gaynor and Debbie Reynolds (who did some intricate dancing with Donald O'Connor in "I Love Melvin") could certainly have. Among Broadway people, folks like Gwen Verdon, Helen Gallagher, Chita Rivera and now Sutton Foster could handle the singing and dancing. Now Gene Nelson, famous for his Buddy in "Follies" and his movie Will Parker in "Oklahoma!" was a really marvelous dancer, who should be brought up more often along with the likes of Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, Donald O'Connor and the Nicholas Brothers. This clip is from "Tea For Two" which incorporates some musical numbers from "No, No, Nanette!". I love Gordon MacRae's voice, but he wasn't a dancer or even apparently a mover from the films of his I've seen. |
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| Link | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8owxNvk21s |
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| re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats | |
| Posted by: chrismpls 03:10 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| In reply to: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats - PlayWiz 03:02 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
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| Looks like Andrews taps pretty well in the "Thoroughly Modern Millie" elevator dance. | |
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| re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats | |
| Last Edit: SidL 06:50 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| Posted by: SidL (STEPPING OUT) 06:46 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats - chrismpls 03:10 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
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| Liza Minnelli always gives 110% to everything she does including learning how to tap dance for the film version of STEPPING OUT linked: tap finale |
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| re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 03:15 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 03:14 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats - chrismpls 03:10 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
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| True - I forgot about that one. So I'll take her my list of non-tappers, though I had already mentioned her Gene Kelly tv tap anyway. :) | |
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| re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats | |
| Posted by: Alcindoro 05:05 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats - PlayWiz 03:14 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
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| I'm not saying Day couldn't tap (she certainly looks like she's doing the right steps) but neither she nor Nelson are even wearing taps on their shoes. It was customary in many of the old musicals for the tap and other dance sounds to be dubbed in either before or after filming. Gene Kelly's "taps" in the "Singin' In The Rain" number were dubbed in later by Gwen Verdon, standing in a barrel of water. | |
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| re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 06:19 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats - Alcindoro 05:05 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
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| The taps for "Singin' in the Rain" were dubbed by Gwen Verdon (Jack Cole's assistant) and Carol Haney (who was Kelly's assistant), to be completely correct. Most tap sounds were recorded later in musical films. I mean there are times in some films where folks are dancing and halfway through the number taps are heard, and the dancers haven't even had time to change their shoes to tap shoes! Anyway, I'm talking about the movement and the quality of the dancing in the clip I linked. I highly doubt that Nelson would have concocted such highly difficult number for Day -- or an even more fiendishly difficult one on the steps in the title song of the film of the same name "Lullaby of Broadway" had he not felt that she could execute them well. | |
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| re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats | |
| Posted by: pierce 10:45 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats - PlayWiz 06:19 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
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| The taps for "Singin' in the Rain" were dubbed by Gwen Verdon (Jack Cole's assistant) and Carol Haney (who was Kelly's assistant), to be completely correct... An urban legend that's made its way onto the IMDb trivia page but has been debunked in the book "SINGIN' IN THE RAIN: The Making of an American masterpiece" by Hess and Dabholkhar; Lela Simone, Arthur Freed's invaluable assistant (who was fully involved with post-production work on the film) confirmed this. While it's very likely Verdon and Haney experimented with different shoes, trying to find the right ones that would work in the rain and make the best sound, Gene Kelly always recorded his own taps for the final cuts of his films. It was a painstaking and tedious process, but artists like Kelly, Fred Astaire and Donald O'Connor knew how unique their tap styles were and simply considered post-production tap dubbing a necessary evil. While we're on the subject of urban legends, there's another one about milk being mixed in with the rain to make the drops more visible. That's also wrong; front and back lighting by cinematographer Hal Rosson brought out the raindrops clearly. |
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| re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats | |
| Posted by: Alcindoro 10:55 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Doris Day and Gene Nelson - marvelous tapping and singing - triple threats - pierce 10:45 pm EDT 07/09/17 | |
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| >there's another one about milk being mixed in with the rain< That one always sounded questionable. Wouldn't milk have made a horrible stink under hot studio lights? Singin' in the yogurt. |
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