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| Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run | |
| Posted by: dramedy 02:52 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: CAST REVEALED FOR LES MISÉRABLES NORTH AMERICAN TOUR - Official_Press_Release 09:45 pm EDT 08/11/17 | |
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| I'm amazed that this keeps touring every few years. Does this show get many regional productions? I assume it would be hard to pull off with limited budget and maybe that is why it can tour with little local competition. | |
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| re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES (SRMHAYES@aol.com) 06:24 am EDT 08/13/17 | |
| In reply to: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run - dramedy 02:52 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| I'll be doing it in my driveway next April, using Karaoke Tra xx, playing Javert and both Thenardiers.....hoping to get ANY original cast member from "Welcome Back, Kotter" to play Jean Valjean (I think Ron Palillo is dead....) |
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| I look forward to watching it on youtube nmi | |
| Posted by: dramedy 06:43 am EDT 08/13/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run - SRMHAYES 06:24 am EDT 08/13/17 | |
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| re: I look forward to watching it on youtube nmi | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES (SRMHAYES@aol.com) 09:28 am EDT 08/13/17 | |
| In reply to: I look forward to watching it on youtube nmi - dramedy 06:43 am EDT 08/13/17 | |
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| Wanna come film it???? XOXOXO!!!! Megan Lawrence WAS one of my (AMAZING) "Annie"'s in 85 but I doubt she'll come down to Baltimore to play Eponine in the driveway!!! LOL!!! | |
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| re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run | |
| Posted by: Page 04:20 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run - dramedy 02:52 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| Riverside Center for the Performing Arts in Fredericksburg, Virginia produced Les Misérables. Best production I have ever seen on the Riverside Center stage. I saw this twice. When I auditioned for Les Misérables, I didn't realize how tough the score was. I made callbacks but not the final casting. :( |
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| re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES (SRMHAYES@aol.com) 06:27 am EDT 08/13/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run - Page 04:20 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| "Ragtime" was the best production ever on the Riverside Stage. End of discussion. |
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| re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run | |
| Last Edit: royscho 10:39 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
| Posted by: royscho 10:37 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run - dramedy 02:52 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| The last "flop run" ran for over 2.5 years, grossed 110M, made a profit of about 20M (after recoupment) while providing work for hundreds of people. | |
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| The first revival lasted a year | |
| Posted by: dramedy 12:10 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run - royscho 10:37 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| The second was 2.5 years, but thats around 130 weeks for $110m gross that needs to deduct 10% for fees. I knew the aversge weekly was well under a $1m. did they announce a recoup? I dont remember that (im on vacation so dont have access to my data sheet.) you must have inside info that it made $20m since i would have remembered that if it was reported and im surprised it was that much. | |
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| re: The first revival lasted a year | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:34 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: The first revival lasted a year - dramedy 12:10 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| There definitely was not an announcement of recoupment and I do try to stay on top of these things. I wonder, though, about a case like Les Miserables (whose tour had already recouped its initial costs). It decides to move into a Broadway theater for a long stay like 2-1/2 years. I assume that in order to be commercially successful, it merely needs to net more than the total of its weekly costs over its run. Isn't this sort of like what David Merrick did in the 60's with shows like Oliver!, Pickwick, and The Roar of the Greasepaint -- the Smell of the Crowd? All 3 had long, profitable pre-Broadway tours (during which most if not all of their costs were recouped). When they finally arrived on Broadway, everything was gravy. Oliver! ended up with a respectable run, but the other 2 did not -- yet the 3 were declared commercial hits by all the recognized sources. |
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| re: The first revival lasted a year | |
| Posted by: Page 04:00 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: re: The first revival lasted a year - BroadwayTonyJ 12:34 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| After Broadway, Oliver! had a successful national tour. The cast included several members from the original London and Broadway productions. I saw this when it played the Shubert in Chicago. First show I had seen that had a turntable. I loved the Sean Kenny set design. I have the Shubert Playbill and souvenir program from this beautiful production. After seeing Oliver! I was addicted to the Broadway cast album playing it over and over. |
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| re: The first revival lasted a year | |
| Posted by: royscho 01:41 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: re: The first revival lasted a year - BroadwayTonyJ 12:34 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| I can't really elaborate how I know the profit figure but it's correct. I don't believe everything I read online, let alone something that is written anonymously in a chat room, so I certainly understand your and dramedy's skepticism. Can't help you there, unfortunately. However, there was definitely a recoupment announcement, though they didn't make a big deal about it. I'm sure you can google news it or maybe look up the traditional playbill "ending its run" story and see it there. |
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| The first revival lasted a year | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 02:11 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: re: The first revival lasted a year - royscho 01:41 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| You're right! The Playbill article on 9/04/16 confirms that the production recouped. Apparently I missed it back then. Like you said it was a pretty low-key announcement. I never really doubted your claim -- it made sense. I just never had seen an official announcement. Les Miserables is that rare show that audiences presumably never tire of. I think the original Oklahoma! was like that also (for a considerable length of time), but not many other shows. When My Fair Lady burst on the scene and was so acclaimed, I thought for sure it would be popular for many years afterward, but sadly that has not been the case. | |
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| re: The first revival lasted a year | |
| Posted by: garyd 01:59 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: re: The first revival lasted a year - royscho 01:41 pm EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| I assume this is not fake news but who knows these days. | |
| Link | http://www.playbill.com/article/hit-les-miserables-revival-begins-final-week-of-performances |
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| re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 09:46 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run - dramedy 02:52 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| 3 of the 4 big Chicago area regional theaters (that do musicals) have staged Les Miserables in recent years: Paramount in 2015, Drury Lane in 2014, and Marriott in 2008. In addition I suspect a national tour comes in at least every other year. I assume that there must be an endless audience for the show otherwise it wouldn't get done so often. I pretty much got Les Mizzed-out some time ago and have not seen any of the local productions, although I heard good things about all of them. | |
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| re: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run | |
| Last Edit: Ann 09:09 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
| Posted by: Ann 09:08 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
| In reply to: Maybe this tour can return to broadway for another flop run - dramedy 02:52 am EDT 08/12/17 | |
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| Looks like the only available edition for licensing is the school edition. I think it sells very well on tour. | |
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