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| I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: Vectorbabe 06:30 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
| In reply to: Monday: Broadway Casting Directors Union to March on Broadway Producers’ Office - Official_Press_Release 06:18 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| I have been told that one reason producers don't want to give health care, retirements benefits, etc is that the casting director comes into a project, does it, and then leaves. There is no continuation of her/his work as there is with set design, music, costumes, etc. So my question is, "Do casting directors leave something (like a casting guide) with the production that could be used on an on-going basis to fill in when people leave a show? Could this casting guide be considered their continuing part of the production? Meanwhile, did you know that casting directors have been forbidden by the Director's Guild of America from using the credit "Casting Director." The DGA refuses to acknowledge that anyone else on a movie is a "director." So casting directors are listed in movies as "Casting by". Cruel. |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: wwxyz 12:31 pm EDT 08/18/17 | |
| In reply to: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - Vectorbabe 06:30 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| The way health insurance works with most theatrical unions is that the union provides the insurance; employers pay into the union insurance fund an amount specified by the contract for each employee (a certain amount for each day worked, or a percentage of salary paid or whatever) and the employee is covered if they meet the unions' qualifications (# days worked in a certain time period, amount made in a year, etc.) That way the employer isn't responsible for providing insurance for people who may only work for them for a short time, and those of us who move from employer to employer still have insurance. Large unions buy their own insurance; the IATSE International has insurance that smaller IA unions can use. |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:27 am EDT 08/18/17 | |
| In reply to: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - Vectorbabe 06:30 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| The casting director works full time on a running show scouting talent and casting replacements and national tours. This can be a series of 8-10 auditions for each actor being strongly considered. Plus, in some cases, they need to hire actors to be trained (Billy Elliott, Matilda, and School of Rock kids) to be trained before they are officially cast. | |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:29 am EDT 08/18/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - KingSpeed 08:27 am EDT 08/18/17 | |
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| Also, casting directors often work for nothing for years of readings prior to the show being cast for Broadway. | |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 10:16 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
| In reply to: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - Vectorbabe 06:30 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| Who's giving you your information about how casting works on a Broadway show? It's wrong. Whoever said such a thing doesn't know what they're talking about. | |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: makemlaff 06:49 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
| In reply to: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - Vectorbabe 06:30 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| I don't believe the reason you've been told is correct. It's more likely because they're considered independent contractors and not employees of the production. | |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: Vectorbabe 06:57 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - makemlaff 06:49 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| Is the costume designer an employee of the production? Can she/he get benefits long after the designs have been created? | |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 06:45 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
| In reply to: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - Vectorbabe 06:30 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| No, not to my knowledge. Generally/always when a show runs long enough to have new casting needs the hired casting service continues with that. | |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 06:43 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
| In reply to: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - Vectorbabe 06:30 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| On Broadway and off-Broadway, they are usually retained if there are cast changes, plus there are required Equity calls for every show at set periods of time where someone from a casting office shows up. | |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: Vectorbabe 06:49 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - PlayWiz 06:43 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| OK! PlayWiz, you've hit on something important. The fact that the casting office continues to "service" the show at set intervals says that their contribution is on going. That's an important point that the casting union advocates need to get out. |
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| re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question | |
| Posted by: Snowgrace 08:27 pm EDT 08/18/17 | |
| In reply to: re: I back the idea of a union, but have a real question - Vectorbabe 06:49 pm EDT 08/17/17 | |
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| They surely DO work hard sometimes for decades on a production! The office of Tara Rubin (one of the leaders of this movement to protect her colleagues) STILL screens actors for every single role in every PHANTOM production around the world, for instance. And while some of us could say "well look at the hundreds to thousands of actors who struggle for health insurance 'cause they're not getting cast or sometimes even SEEN by these casting directors," they DO work hard & there ought to be a way for the producers to subsidize insurance to be provided by their union, no? | |
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