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| Posted by: KingSpeed 04:56 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
| In reply to: RIP Robert Guillaume, age 89 :-( - MockingbirdGirl 04:38 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
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| Wasn't he the second actor to play the Phantom in the US? Not much of a barrier. | |
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| Posted by: bobby2 02:38 am EDT 10/25/17 | |
| In reply to: barrier-breaking? - KingSpeed 04:56 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
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| I read he was also the first black actor to win an Emmy for a comedic role. | |
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| And here's how rare Guillaume's Emmy wins were ... | |
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| Posted by: WaymanWong 01:42 pm EDT 10/25/17 | |
| In reply to: re: barrier-breaking? - bobby2 02:38 am EDT 10/25/17 | |
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| True. Guillaume was the first black actor to win Actor in a Comedy for ''Benson'' in 1985 (15 years after Bill Cosby's 1st nomination in Comedy). Astonishingly, no other black actor had won in this category until 32 years later, and it was only last month (!): Donald Glover for ''Atlanta.'' However, Guillaume's first Emmy win was for Supporting Actor in a Comedy for ''Soap'' in 1979. Almost 40 years later, no black has won that category since ... despite nominations for Eddie Murphy, Ron Glass, Tracy Morgan, Tituss Burgess ... |
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| re: barrier-breaking? | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 05:12 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
| In reply to: barrier-breaking? - KingSpeed 04:56 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
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| Wasn't he the second actor to play the Phantom in the US? Not much of a barrier. How many other shows at the time had black leads in otherwise all-white casts? Unless it's Othello, not a lot. (And I'm amazed your only comment on his passing is to 'whitesplain' this achievement.) |
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| re: barrier-breaking? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 06:31 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
| In reply to: re: barrier-breaking? - MockingbirdGirl 05:12 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
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| Last Edit: NightMusic77 05:11 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
| Posted by: NightMusic77 05:11 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
| In reply to: barrier-breaking? - KingSpeed 04:56 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
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| Considering the fact that he is one of only two African-Americans to play the Phantom (and the first) in its 30-year-long run, yes I think barrier-breaking is appropriate. | |
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| Three actually... | |
| Posted by: TourBoi 08:10 pm EDT 10/25/17 | |
| In reply to: re: barrier-breaking? - NightMusic77 05:11 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
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| Robert was the first, and fantastic. Norm was the second, but you may not be aware that the present touring Phantom is African-American: Derrick Davis, who is also quite good in the role. | |
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| re: barrier-breaking? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 06:28 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
| In reply to: re: barrier-breaking? - NightMusic77 05:11 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
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| There was no barrier. If he was 50th person and 1st black actor, you could call that barrier breaking. | |
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| re: barrier-breaking? | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 10:10 am EDT 10/25/17 | |
| In reply to: re: barrier-breaking? - KingSpeed 06:28 pm EDT 10/24/17 | |
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| There are still barriers all over. It's not just about one production or one show. And it takes more than one actor to help the effort. Guillaume was an important part of the break that is still in process. Period. | |
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| re: barrier-breaking? | |
| Posted by: NightMusic77 12:39 pm EDT 10/25/17 | |
| In reply to: re: barrier-breaking? - Chromolume 10:10 am EDT 10/25/17 | |
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| Thanks, Chromolume. I didn't want to get into an argument but that's exactly right. | |
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