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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: FrenchDip 09:51 pm EDT 10/27/17
In reply to: Betsy Wolfe - lordofspeech 09:22 pm EDT 10/27/17

Carousel is having a pre-rehearsal lab, going on right now. Wolfe wasn't available to participate because she is rehearsing with Jason Mraz before he starts in Waitress next week. The Carousel team decided that was a dealbreaker and replaced Wolfe.
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Last Edit: MikeR 01:16 pm EDT 10/28/17
Posted by: MikeR 01:15 pm EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - FrenchDip 09:51 pm EDT 10/27/17

I'm trying really hard to imagine what the purpose of a "pre-rehearsal lab" would be for a show that has existed for over 70 years... I'm coming up blank.
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: FrenchDip 07:08 pm EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - MikeR 01:15 pm EDT 10/28/17

Scott Rudin's Hello Dolly had two pre-reheasal labs last year. One for Warren Carlyle and the dancers to try out new choreography (much of it was scrapped in favor of the original Gower Champion dances) and one for Midler and the other principles to get a head-start on scene work with Jerry Zaks.

Rudin must have found it to be a worthwhile investment.
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Last Edit: Chromolume 09:04 pm EDT 10/28/17
Posted by: Chromolume 09:02 pm EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - FrenchDip 07:08 pm EDT 10/28/17

and one for Midler and the other principles to get a head-start on scene work with Jerry Zaks.

I guess it's the terminology that's throwing me. To me, if you're doing scenework with the director, that's rehearsal, not "pre" rehearsal, regardless of calendar schedule.

Working on one's own to prep dialogue, dialects, etc, or working on a vocal coach to learn a score outside of the formal start of rehearsals is one thing. But to me, an organized session designed to work on aspects of the production together with the production team - that's plain old rehearsal. No need to "pre" it or call it a "lab." It's rehearsal. Period. ;-)

Might as well call basic staging rehearsals "pre-tech" and the run of a show "pre-closing" lol.
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: KingSpeed 05:24 pm EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - MikeR 01:15 pm EDT 10/28/17

Makes no sense
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: Chromolume 02:55 pm EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - MikeR 01:15 pm EDT 10/28/17

That's my question too. The image in my head is that of the (bad) school or community theatre director who insists on spending too much precious rehearsal time playing theatre games to "bond" the cast. I wouldn't think someone like O'Brien would feel the need to do that, especially with the experienced cast he has. So It can't be that sort of thing, can it?
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Last Edit: Maguire75 08:29 pm EDT 10/28/17
Posted by: Maguire75 08:27 pm EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - Chromolume 02:55 pm EDT 10/28/17

I don't think you are understanding the nature of workshops. They are usually done to explore one or two components of the eventual show.

In one instance, I could certainly see a lab done to give choreographer Justin Peck a chance to develop his work, particularly as dance plays a huge role in CAROUSEL.

Another may be that Jack O'Brian does indeed want more time to do scene work with the principal actors. Scene work is usually glossed over in putting together large scale musicals, and so if O'Brien and Scott Rudin feel it's worth the time and money to do a workshop to allow more exploratory work with the actors to bond with character and relationship, why should it be questioned? Theatre games, by the way, are only a waste of time if the director doesn't have an end result for them in mind. Rehearsals at institutions like the RSC and RNT regualarly include improvisations, and extensive table work - and I don't think many would compare their productions with bad school or community theatre. They simply have the luxury of time (often six weeks or more of rehearsal) to do more exploratory work with any production, and that is essentially what is being added to the process of a 70 year old musical here by doing a workshop.

I'm frankly happy to learn they aren't treating this like a Summer Stock production that can just be thrown up quickly.
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: Chromolume 08:58 pm EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - Maguire75 08:27 pm EDT 10/28/17

Theatre games, by the way, are only a waste of time if the director doesn't have an end result for them in mind.

Very true statement. I've had the bad luck to work with a few directors in my past who just seemed to want to do them, with no stated reason other than "it's fun" lol.

I guess if the word "workshop" had been used from the start instead of "lab," maybe I would have gotten a different connotation from it. ;-)
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: lowwriter 12:51 am EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - FrenchDip 09:51 pm EDT 10/27/17

Much as I like Lindsay Mendez, I think Wolfe would have been a perfect Carrie.
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: owk 11:43 pm EDT 10/27/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - FrenchDip 09:51 pm EDT 10/27/17

And if you believe that was the reason I've got a very nice bridge I'd like to sell you. It runs between Manhattan and one of the outer boroughs.
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 01:05 am EDT 10/28/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - owk 11:43 pm EDT 10/27/17

Do you actually know something, or do you just think you're smarter than the person who answered the question? It's certainly a plausible reason to recast.
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re: Betsy Wolfe
Posted by: Chromolume 10:52 pm EDT 10/27/17
In reply to: re: Betsy Wolfe - FrenchDip 09:51 pm EDT 10/27/17

A pre-rehearsal lab?
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