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| Posted by: IvyLeagueDropout 09:17 pm EDT 10/30/17 | |
| In reply to: A Rapp Against Kevin Spacey - CookieFan 12:23 am EDT 10/30/17 | |
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| I remember being genuinely surprised that there wasn't more outrage about the James Barbour situation a number of years ago, and further that he continued to find work. I don't know how that isn't as bad or worse than this situation, which is terrible enough. FWIW, I completely believed Anthony's story even before Spacey quasi confirmed it. People who inflict their sexual advances on children are the worst. It isn't really morally possible to ignore and/or defend James Barbour's conduct and simultaneously be upset by Kevin Spacey's. I just wish Spacey could be prosecuted now. | |
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| re: A Rapp Against Kevin Spacey | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 01:56 pm EDT 10/31/17 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 01:53 pm EDT 10/31/17 | |
| In reply to: re: A Rapp Against Kevin Spacey - IvyLeagueDropout 09:17 pm EDT 10/30/17 | |
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| I can't imagine who would ''ignore and/or defend James Barbour's conduct'' between himself and a teen in 2001 (at the time of ''Jane Eyre''). But for the record, there is a big difference between him and, say, Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump, accused of sexual harassment on multiple occasions, and even Kevin Spacey. In 2008, Barbour plead guilty to two misdemeanor counts of child endangerment and served 60 days in jail on Rikers Island. He also got three years' probation during which he had to inform any prospective employers about what he had done. Having served his sentence, Barbour, like anyone convicted of a crime, is allowed to learn from his mistakes and rebuild his life. Just as you have the right to boycott his shows, he has the right to make a living, as long as he keeps his nose clean. In the past decade, he's starred in ''A Tale of Two Cities,'' earning Outer Critics, Drama Desk and Drama League nominations; done various charity concerts for Broadway Cares and worked with the Actors Fund, and in December, he'll wrap up a nearly three-year run in the title role of ''The Phantom of the Opera.'' At the time Barbour joined ''Phantom'' in 2015, the show issued this statement: ''James gave a tremendous audition and we are confident he will be a thrilling Phantom. James fully accepted responsibility for what happened 14 years ago. While we know some will disagree, we believe James has completely honored the second chance he was given beginning 7 years ago and we are happy to have him join the production.'' |
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| re: A Rapp Against Kevin Spacey | |
| Last Edit: IvyLeagueDropout 08:00 am EDT 11/01/17 | |
| Posted by: IvyLeagueDropout 07:58 am EDT 11/01/17 | |
| In reply to: re: A Rapp Against Kevin Spacey - WaymanWong 01:53 pm EDT 10/31/17 | |
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| Not to harp on Barbour, but I would keep a few things in mind: -As noted by others in this thread, sexual predators seldom act once in isolation -While he did plea to 2 misdemeanor counts, that hardly tells the story. He met a 15 year old girl, molested her at that time, and set up a future sexual rendezvous with her, and then went through with it. All the while, he knew her age. While I appreciate that he did his time, and I am sure a rehash is painful for him, I imagine it is worse for her, and always will be. He is not someone who failed to separate his recyclables or tried to get a tax credit to which he was not entitled. He committed a premeditated violent sexual crime against a child. Had James Barbour done this recently (or had it first come to light recently), I think he would be in for a much greater humiliation and likely more than the slap on the wrist he got. And while in quantity this is not in league with what we know about HW or DJT, it is every bit as bad as any allegation against them. Worse, I think, because I have not heard an allegation against either Weinstein or Trump involving a child. While convicts of all stripes who do their time do get to reenter society, the recidivism rate for sex offenders requires responsible citizens and employers to keep an eye- forever- on them. I hope in addition to his jail term he continues to be in therapy. |
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| re: A Rapp Against Kevin Spacey | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 01:02 am EDT 10/31/17 | |
| In reply to: re: A Rapp Against Kevin Spacey - IvyLeagueDropout 09:17 pm EDT 10/30/17 | |
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| But where do we go from here? Didn't Barbour carry out his sentence? Must he never work again? Must Spacey never work again for something he did 30 years ago? | |
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| Last Edit: JereNYC 03:13 pm EDT 10/31/17 | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 03:10 pm EDT 10/31/17 | |
| In reply to: re: A Rapp Against Kevin Spacey - KingSpeed 01:02 am EDT 10/31/17 | |
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| It will be interesting to see if, as with the Weinstein case, people start coming out of the woodwork due to Anthony Rapp's bravery at naming names here, and start telling their own stories about encounters with Kevin Spacey as teens or young adults. When this sort of behavior happens, it's very rare that it happens one time only, especially if the abuser isn't caught and brought to justice at the time. How many others went through what Rapp did...or worse...at the hands of Kevin Spacey? Is there a time limit on how long ago makes this behavior acceptable? What if he attempted to rape a teenager 10 years ago? Does that make it different? |
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