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| Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: MarjorieMae 10:21 am EST 12/16/17 | |
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| When the ladies enter the party the music from the song associated with each one is heard. When Carlotta enters the music to Can That Boy Foxtrot is played even though the song was replaced by I'm Still Here. Anyone know why it wasn't changed? | |
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| re: Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 03:07 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
| In reply to: Another Follies question - MarjorieMae 10:21 am EST 12/16/17 | |
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| The entrance of the past Follies performers and their spouses and companions starts with "That Old Piano Roll," a book song (albeit one that sounds like a pastiche song) that was cut before rehearsals started in 1971. "I'm Still Here" Is not a Weismann Follies song. "Can That Boy Foxtrot" was one, even though the conceit originally was that it was cut out of town. In the original production, Carlotta entered when "Rain on the Roof" was playing. In the NT production, she enters after Stella and Sam, while "Who's That Woman?" is playing. In both the original and the NT production, it's Phyllis and Ben who enter when "Foxtrot" plays. So in neither production was there much consistency in attempting in matching songs to the entrances. Nor do all these things particularly make sense. When Buddy enters, after "Hey, up there! etc.," we hear "The God-Why-Don't-You-Love-Me Blues," even though we never hear "Losing My Mind," "The Story of Lucy and Jessie" or "Live, Laugh, Love" before we hear them in the "Follies" sequence. For the most part, underscoring from the party musicians features songs that are defined as having been Weismann Follies songs, yet we also hear "Loveland," which would not seem to have been a Weismann Follies song, but simply one from the surreal "Follies" sequence. A show out of town still making big changes does what it has to do. People seeing a show for the first time are not going to notice these things. |
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| re: Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 03:27 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Another Follies question - AlanScott 03:07 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
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| I did enjoy using "can That Boy Foxtrot" in the NT production as undescoring in the scene with Dimitri hitting on the waitress--a scene that seemed even creepier than in past FOLLIES i've seen, given the recent news. Laura |
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| re: Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: simbo 02:27 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
| In reply to: Another Follies question - MarjorieMae 10:21 am EST 12/16/17 | |
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| At a guess - everybody else's song is the song they performed in the Follies. "I'm Still Here" is not a song Carlotta performed in the Follies. So while "Can that Boy Foxtrot" doesn't feature in the rest of the score, it can still be her "Follies" song. | |
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| re: Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: ptownguy 10:47 am EST 12/16/17 | |
| In reply to: Another Follies question - MarjorieMae 10:21 am EST 12/16/17 | |
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| I seem to remember -- not sure which book -- During the Boston tryout, Yvonne De Carlo asked S.S. to change the song since she was uncomfortable singing it. He went back to the Ritz Carlton and wrote "I'm Still Here." | |
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| re: Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: mermaniac 01:36 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Another Follies question - ptownguy 10:47 am EST 12/16/17 | |
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| That doesn't address the question at ALL ! | |
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| re: Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: lonlad 02:05 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Another Follies question - mermaniac 01:36 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
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| Indeed it doesn't. Talk about a non-answer !! | |
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| re: Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 02:46 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Another Follies question - lonlad 02:05 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
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| I think being made was that I'm Still Here was a late addition to the score. There was probably too much that needed to be done (such as rehearsing I'm Still Here) to go back, rewrite, orchestrate, rehearse with the orchestra, rehearse with the actors, a section of the play that was doing just fine. | |
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| re: Another Follies question | |
| Posted by: owk 05:51 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Another Follies question - whereismikeyfl 02:46 pm EST 12/16/17 | |
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| I think this is basically right. There was a lot to do, and I don't think anyone was concerned with having the underscoring match up in a specific way except when it was convenient. The opening music (for the ghost showgirls) is from another cut song -- "All Things Bright and Beautiful", and I think the effort was simply to have a smoothly drawn piece of prelude music that would allow everything to happen that needed to happen and get gracefully to the beginning of the actual play. Don't forget that this was not the original out-of-town opening, which involved scratchy-soudning old recordings of the Follies acts in their original versions and a fairly elaborate soundscape that accompanied the entrances. The onstage musicians played tinkly music, and the full orchestra was not heard (and for all the world might as well not have been there at all) until the first orchestral entrance in "Beautiful Girls". I'm sure that's why that entrance is as huge as it is -- it was supposed to take the audience by surprise. It's certainly not unusual for shows to use music from cut songs as underscoring -- the first scene change in Fiddler is music from a cut song, though it sounds similar to "Matchmaker Matchmaker". But those discarded tunes have always come in handy. |
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