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| Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:46 am EST 12/19/17 | |
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| I hope she doesn't try to do it during "Before the Parade Passes By" -- it's not the right send-off for the audience going into intermission. Peters does tend to like to feature some caught-in-the-throat crying in some of her performances. If they reinstate "Love is Only Love" from the movie (originally written for "Mame"), I guess she could turn on the waterworks if she and the director wanted. I think she'll be great in the role, but I don't think a lachrymose Dolly is the way to go. | |
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| SCTV said it best | |
| Posted by: Hair 01:09 am EST 12/20/17 | |
| In reply to: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - PlayWiz 11:46 am EST 12/19/17 | |
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| Andrea Martin did a killer Bernadette on Celebrity Farm Blow Up and the hosts talked about how she always cries. And Bernadette says "my eyes will glaze over and I'll get REAL introspective. And you won't know if I'm real into my song...or just into myself" | |
| Link | Bernadette Gets Blowed Up |
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| re: SCTV said it best | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES 07:05 am EST 12/20/17 | |
| In reply to: SCTV said it best - Hair 01:09 am EST 12/20/17 | |
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| She blowed up REAL GOOD!!!!! | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 02:10 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - PlayWiz 11:46 am EST 12/19/17 | |
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| This may surprise you, but I remember Ethel Merman had a brief moment of tears when she did the show, and it may have been during the "Ephraim, let me go" speech before "Parade." Let me try to do some research before I write anything more about this, or if someone here knows what I'm talking about and remembers it clearly, please feel free to chime in. | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES 11:35 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - Michael_Portantiere 02:10 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right on that one...and gettin' a tear outta Ethel was no easy feat but I truly recall seeing it happen on TV (maybe "The Mike Douglas Show" from Philly ?) "Haven't I Ephraim???" |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 12:29 pm EST 12/20/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - SRMHAYES 11:35 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| Merman herself copped to that one in her autobiography...she said it was because Douglas surprised her by having her grandchildren join her on the show. | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: JohnDunlop 09:05 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - Michael_Portantiere 02:10 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| True also of Merman in "Gypsy," but I know only because I was very close to the stage. | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 12:28 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - PlayWiz 11:46 am EST 12/19/17 | |
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| If they reinstate "Love is Only Love" from the movie Didn't they already do enough harm with "Penny In My Pocket?" |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES 11:38 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - Chromolume 12:28 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| She's gonna cry during the set change after "Put On Your Sunday Clothes" but only the stage crew and the dressers will see it. | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 11:46 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - SRMHAYES 11:38 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| She's going to put on her Sunday clothes, then go to a zoo that HAS chimpanZEES. Then she'll cry. ;-) | |
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| Thank for the biggest laugh I've had this week! (nmi) | |
| Posted by: Robt 10:11 am EST 12/21/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - Chromolume 11:46 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: garyd 12:33 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - Chromolume 12:28 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| I think "Penny in My Pocket" works quite well in the current production in that it adds a sweet touch for the final scene when Horace takes the penny from his pocket and gives it to Dolly. | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES 11:42 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - garyd 12:33 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| The song is much needed. Horace has always been underwritten and lacked a needed amount of pathos. I'm glad they have restored the song though I think its' placement in plot and proceedings might be a bit bizarre. | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 03:18 pm EST 12/20/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - SRMHAYES 11:42 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| "I'm glad they have restored the song though I think its' placement in plot and proceedings might be a bit bizarre." I think at first the placement seemed a bit odd to me, as well as the fact that DHP sings the song directly to the audience. But now I think the placement at the start of Act II is fine. As for the other thing, Horace addresses the audience directly in his lines before "It Takes a Woman," and in the song itself. Plus Dolly addresses the audience directly at the very end of the show ("Money, money, money..."). So I don't have a problem with that, either. |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Posted by: garyd 12:21 am EST 12/20/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - SRMHAYES 11:42 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| True. If the book were different, Horace should sing it to Cornelius and Barnaby as sort of a "lesson" but that really would not fit the rest of the book as it now exists. "Explaining" to the audience works fine as long as it is delivered with the tempered panache that DHP conjures. | |
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| re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 12:35 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 12:31 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - Chromolume 12:28 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| There's still "Just Leave Everything To Me" and the two Ethel Merman songs ready for a star to choose from as well. "Penny in My Pocket" is a bit of an earworm actually; I don't mind it, and it gives a star Horace (or one who can actually sing) something more to sing. | |
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| I might add... | |
| Posted by: Sullivan 02:59 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - PlayWiz 12:31 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| I would sit through another 15 minutes more just to hear those beautiful songs Ethel Merman had written for her in her show sung by Ms. Peters. She is going to be a knock-out, tear(s) and all. I wish I could see it all happen in person but I'm afraid I'll have to hear everything from you guys who have tickets. I'm hoping they make a new recording with her in the show. Please, please... | |
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| Yeah, I hate when actors have emotions and feel things. (n/m) | |
| Posted by: Busy_Bee 12:08 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - PlayWiz 11:46 am EST 12/19/17 | |
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| Exactly: when people think about their dead husbands or wives, or when people discover new love, they sometimes cry. | |
| Posted by: portenopete 02:30 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: Yeah, I hate when actors have emotions and feel things. (n/m) - Busy_Bee 12:08 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| Are we that uncomfortable with human emotion that we have to mock and belittle a shed tear in a show that is brimming with emotion in spots? I would say that it is within the realm of probability that Dolly, Cornelius and Irene Molloy would all likely cry at some point in the show given the emotional roller coaster that Wilder and Herman/Stewart send them on. I don't think they need to be sobbing so that it gets in the way of the singing, but I'd be shocked if they (or I) DIDN'T shed a tear at some point. And- SPOILER ALERT- in the current production it is a lovely touch to give Vandergelder a couple of those moments as well. |
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| re: Exactly: when people think about their dead husbands or wives, or when people discover new love, they sometimes cry. | |
| Posted by: Delvino 10:21 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: Exactly: when people think about their dead husbands or wives, or when people discover new love, they sometimes cry. - portenopete 02:30 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| Ah, thank you. | |
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| Oh, I love Bernadette! | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 12:15 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 12:12 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: Yeah, I hate when actors have emotions and feel things. (n/m) - Busy_Bee 12:08 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| She's a marvelous performer -- but it has to do with song placement in this show since "Before the Parade" ends the act and since "Hello, Dolly!" is mostly a very up-beat, life-affirming show. For her to end it on a crying maelstrom would be, well, rather jarring. Her emotional take on "Send in the Clowns" in "A Little Night Music" was certainly wonderful, but that's pretty much the 11 o'clock number placement in that show. | |
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| re: Oh, I love Bernadette! | |
| Last Edit: Delvino 01:46 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| Posted by: Delvino 01:43 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: Oh, I love Bernadette! - PlayWiz 12:12 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| I sat in the front row of "Night Music..." (a spot I normally eschew) and was transported by the Peters "Clowns..." Unrelated, but not: and she was so gorgeous in that show -- the Zeta Jones costumes just suited her perfectly, and the white satin dress she wore to take on the iconic number was part of the experience. I loved her performance, opposite the wonderful Alexandeer Hanson. As Brantley wrote: "The halting phrases of the song suggest the overwhelming emotion Desirée is just keeping in check. Ms. Peters invests each brittle line with a full measure of feeling without losing the arc of the music or any of the delicate irony in the lyrics. Despite her sadness Desirée is too generous and too sophisticated to make a melodrama even of her own heartbreak. And yet while Ms. Peters’s Desirée erases her tears with flashing smiles, the inner devastation comes through with moving clarity. Ms. Peters transmits with equal force the sense of Desirée growing into new wisdom about what matters in love — and in life — at long last, and much too late." 8/1/10 |
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| re: Oh, I love Bernadette! | |
| Posted by: StanS 02:00 pm EST 12/20/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Oh, I love Bernadette! - Delvino 01:43 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| I guess mine is a minority opinion, but Peters' crying in "Clowns' spoiled it for me. In fact, to me she did the opposite of what Brantley said - she made a melodrama of it. I would have been much more moved if she kept it more understated. | |
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| re: Oh, I love Bernadette! | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:27 pm EST 12/20/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Oh, I love Bernadette! - StanS 02:00 pm EST 12/20/17 | |
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| "I guess mine is a minority opinion, but Peters' crying in 'Clowns' spoiled it for me. In fact, to me she did the opposite of what Brantley said - she made a melodrama of it. I would have been much more moved if she kept it more understated." It's possible that you and Brantley just had different reactions, but it's also safe to assume that Peters didn't play it exactly the same way at every performance. Perhaps her crying was more understated at certain performances than at others. When I saw the show, I would say it was quite understated and very moving. I do agree that song is most effective when the emotion in it is more understated than overt. |
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| re: Oh, I love Bernadette! | |
| Posted by: Delvino 11:14 am EST 12/21/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Oh, I love Bernadette! - Michael_Portantiere 04:27 pm EST 12/20/17 | |
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| I saw it July 27th. The Brantley review appeared the next week. It's possible that the performance changed, both day-to-day, and evolved (or the opposite). But though I generally like a lid kept on such displays of feeling in musicals -- to my thinking, the songs themselves are intended to do what tears do (generalizations dangerous, understood) -- this was one instance of genuinely believable catharsis. It re-minted an almost too-often-heard song in context, and I was swept up. | |
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| re: Oh, I love Bernadette! | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 11:26 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: Oh, I love Bernadette! - Delvino 01:43 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| I sat in the front row of "Night Music..." (a spot I normally eschew) Gesundheit. ;-) |
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| re: Oh, I love Bernadette! | |
| Posted by: NightMusic77 12:27 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: Oh, I love Bernadette! - PlayWiz 12:12 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| I think it's safe to expect a single tear rolling down one cheek while the other half of her face smiles at least 3 times per performance. My big question is will the self-hug come at the end of Parade or So Long, Dearie? ;) Can't wait! |
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