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| re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 12:07 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 12:06 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? - Chromolume 12:01 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| I don't know the original story, but just the song alone when I hear it now bugs me when I hear the lines "wouldn't let him join in all the reindeer games" and later "then how the reindeer loved him!" Grrrrr! I do love the melody and have warm and fuzzy memories of the tv show (just watched it again recently), but I almost always think when I hear the song, "Then? Then all the reindeer loved him? WTF? Where were you before he led the f'n sleigh for Santa, bitches!" | |
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| re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 03:26 am EST 12/21/17 | |
| In reply to: re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? - PlayWiz 12:06 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| Frankly, I've always wondered what kind of ''games'' reindeer play: Pin the tail on the reindeer? ;) | |
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| re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? | |
| Posted by: cinderonbroadway 01:11 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? - PlayWiz 12:06 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:40 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? - PlayWiz 12:06 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| What you're reacting to has been part of the story from the very beginning. I've always had a similar reaction to someone being bullied and teased and then suddenly being loved because s/he turns out to be able to help other people through his/her deformity or flaw, or whatever word you want to use for it. I guess maybe the overall point is that sort of thing is a part of human nature. I too love the classic stop-motion animated TV movie -- but if anything, of course, the bullying and ostracizing of Rudolph is made far more explicit in that version than in the song. So I guess the short answer to your point is that the Rudolph story is beloved partly because it's so true to life, including the darker, less admirable aspects of human relations. (Interesting also that it's told through the animal kingdom. We know humans sometimes behave this way, but I don't believe animals do!) |
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| re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 12:55 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 12:50 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
| In reply to: re: 'Baby, It's Cold Outside': Holiday tradition or date-rape anthem? - Michael_Portantiere 12:40 pm EST 12/19/17 | |
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| Actually in the animal world there are mothers who reject their off-spring as well as herds (or whatever term for that particular animal group) who sometimes reject and shun some member. Some animal rescue groups have played the role of surrogate mothers or try to find another animal (sometimes of another species!) who will adopt/mother that young animal. However, I don't know what causes these animals to reject one of their own. I appreciate your support of my post though. | |
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