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Yeah, I hate when actors have emotions and feel things. (n/m)
Posted by: Busy_Bee 12:08 pm EST 12/19/17
In reply to: Has anyone taken odds yet on if Bernadette Peters' Dolly is going to cry at some point during "Hello, Dolly!"? - PlayWiz 11:46 am EST 12/19/17

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Exactly: when people think about their dead husbands or wives, or when people discover new love, they sometimes cry.
Posted by: portenopete 02:30 pm EST 12/19/17
In reply to: Yeah, I hate when actors have emotions and feel things. (n/m) - Busy_Bee 12:08 pm EST 12/19/17

Are we that uncomfortable with human emotion that we have to mock and belittle a shed tear in a show that is brimming with emotion in spots? I would say that it is within the realm of probability that Dolly, Cornelius and Irene Molloy would all likely cry at some point in the show given the emotional roller coaster that Wilder and Herman/Stewart send them on.

I don't think they need to be sobbing so that it gets in the way of the singing, but I'd be shocked if they (or I) DIDN'T shed a tear at some point.

And- SPOILER ALERT- in the current production it is a lovely touch to give Vandergelder a couple of those moments as well.
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re: Exactly: when people think about their dead husbands or wives, or when people discover new love, they sometimes cry.
Posted by: Delvino 10:21 pm EST 12/19/17
In reply to: Exactly: when people think about their dead husbands or wives, or when people discover new love, they sometimes cry. - portenopete 02:30 pm EST 12/19/17

Ah, thank you.
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Oh, I love Bernadette!
Last Edit: PlayWiz 12:15 pm EST 12/19/17
Posted by: PlayWiz 12:12 pm EST 12/19/17
In reply to: Yeah, I hate when actors have emotions and feel things. (n/m) - Busy_Bee 12:08 pm EST 12/19/17

She's a marvelous performer -- but it has to do with song placement in this show since "Before the Parade" ends the act and since "Hello, Dolly!" is mostly a very up-beat, life-affirming show. For her to end it on a crying maelstrom would be, well, rather jarring. Her emotional take on "Send in the Clowns" in "A Little Night Music" was certainly wonderful, but that's pretty much the 11 o'clock number placement in that show.
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re: Oh, I love Bernadette!
Last Edit: Delvino 01:46 pm EST 12/19/17
Posted by: Delvino 01:43 pm EST 12/19/17
In reply to: Oh, I love Bernadette! - PlayWiz 12:12 pm EST 12/19/17

I sat in the front row of "Night Music..." (a spot I normally eschew) and was transported by the Peters "Clowns..." Unrelated, but not: and she was so gorgeous in that show -- the Zeta Jones costumes just suited her perfectly, and the white satin dress she wore to take on the iconic number was part of the experience. I loved her performance, opposite the wonderful Alexandeer Hanson.

As Brantley wrote:

"The halting phrases of the song suggest the overwhelming emotion Desirée is just keeping in check. Ms. Peters invests each brittle line with a full measure of feeling without losing the arc of the music or any of the delicate irony in the lyrics. Despite her sadness Desirée is too generous and too sophisticated to make a melodrama even of her own heartbreak. And yet while Ms. Peters’s Desirée erases her tears with flashing smiles, the inner devastation comes through with moving clarity. Ms. Peters transmits with equal force the sense of Desirée growing into new wisdom about what matters in love — and in life — at long last, and much too late." 8/1/10
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re: Oh, I love Bernadette!
Posted by: StanS 02:00 pm EST 12/20/17
In reply to: re: Oh, I love Bernadette! - Delvino 01:43 pm EST 12/19/17

I guess mine is a minority opinion, but Peters' crying in "Clowns' spoiled it for me. In fact, to me she did the opposite of what Brantley said - she made a melodrama of it. I would have been much more moved if she kept it more understated.
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re: Oh, I love Bernadette!
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:27 pm EST 12/20/17
In reply to: re: Oh, I love Bernadette! - StanS 02:00 pm EST 12/20/17

"I guess mine is a minority opinion, but Peters' crying in 'Clowns' spoiled it for me. In fact, to me she did the opposite of what Brantley said - she made a melodrama of it. I would have been much more moved if she kept it more understated."

It's possible that you and Brantley just had different reactions, but it's also safe to assume that Peters didn't play it exactly the same way at every performance. Perhaps her crying was more understated at certain performances than at others. When I saw the show, I would say it was quite understated and very moving. I do agree that song is most effective when the emotion in it is more understated than overt.
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re: Oh, I love Bernadette!
Posted by: Delvino 11:14 am EST 12/21/17
In reply to: re: Oh, I love Bernadette! - Michael_Portantiere 04:27 pm EST 12/20/17

I saw it July 27th. The Brantley review appeared the next week. It's possible that the performance changed, both day-to-day, and evolved (or the opposite). But though I generally like a lid kept on such displays of feeling in musicals -- to my thinking, the songs themselves are intended to do what tears do (generalizations dangerous, understood) -- this was one instance of genuinely believable catharsis. It re-minted an almost too-often-heard song in context, and I was swept up.
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re: Oh, I love Bernadette!
Posted by: Chromolume 11:26 pm EST 12/19/17
In reply to: re: Oh, I love Bernadette! - Delvino 01:43 pm EST 12/19/17

I sat in the front row of "Night Music..." (a spot I normally eschew)

Gesundheit. ;-)
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re: Oh, I love Bernadette!
Posted by: NightMusic77 12:27 pm EST 12/19/17
In reply to: Oh, I love Bernadette! - PlayWiz 12:12 pm EST 12/19/17

I think it's safe to expect a single tear rolling down one cheek while the other half of her face smiles at least 3 times per performance.
My big question is will the self-hug come at the end of Parade or So Long, Dearie? ;)

Can't wait!
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