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| Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? | |
| Posted by: GrumpyMorningBoy 01:02 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| This is the nerdiest music question ever. Maybe not ever. This is a pretty nerdy place. On "The Hamilton Mixtape," the producers of Jimmy Fallon's track changed like TWO TIIIIINY LITTLE NOTES on the synth part of "You'll Be Back,' giving the song that extra-perfect Paul McCartney vibe. On the YouTube clip below, the extra notes are right at the 1:30 minute mark. They're not part of the original orchestrations. (at least, not in any perceptible way). Here's my question: WHAT BEATLES SONG are those chords lifted from??? (or, songs?) It's driving me positively mental. Anyone with an encyclopedic memory of the Beatles catalogue out there to help? I need somebody, not just anybody! Won't you please, pleeeease help me? - GMB |
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| Link | Jimmy Fallon, "You'll Be Back." |
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| From the book HAMILTON: THE REVOLUTION | |
| Posted by: pierce 04:32 am EST 01/09/18 | |
| In reply to: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - GrumpyMorningBoy 01:02 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| The song titles have already been mentioned throughout this thread, but here's the official word (from Alex Lacamoire) on how the Beatles influenced "You'll Be Back" - Listen closely to it now, and you'll hear a guitar homage to "Getting Better" and a vibraphone nod to "Penny Lane." There's even a synth shout-out to "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite." The contrast between those sunny songs and the king's threats makes him sound even more sociopathic and hilarious. |
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| re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? | |
| Posted by: PeterJCasey 02:55 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| In reply to: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - GrumpyMorningBoy 01:02 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| Music theory warning: The original Hamilton changes are a ii-V back into the tonic (in this case, G). On the mixtape, The Roots have substituted, at the point you're mentioning, a flattened vi chord, which is a faithful standby in jazz and a lot of what has sprung from it. Classical music buffs might call it a German sixth. In any case, if you're looking for Beatles tunes with the regular keyboard crotchets (of which McCartney wrote many 1966-67) AND a flattened vi chord, you might be thinking of 'Penny Lane' or (different rhythm, but still) 'Hello Goodbye'. Personally, I hear 'Fixing a Hole', even though its chords are different, and 'Being for the Benefit of Mister Kite', mainly because of the swirly calliope sound the synth is using. |
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| Thank you!! And yay for music theory. :) | |
| Last Edit: GrumpyMorningBoy 07:47 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| Posted by: GrumpyMorningBoy 07:08 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - PeterJCasey 02:55 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| If I'd had my keyboard with me, I might have been able to plunk out that theory, but you're describing exactly the kind of flattened 6th chord to which I was referring. Funny enough, my first instincts had taken me toward the verses of "Penny Lane," -- with the major / minor shifts -- but I couldn't hear exactly what I wanted. I think The Roots are certainly pulling from the Seargent Pepper era, and "Fixing a Hole" has served them well there. Appreciate you taking the time to reply! - GMB |
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| re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 03:45 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - PeterJCasey 02:55 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| "Penny Lane" was the specific Beatles song that came to my mind the first time I heard King George's song(s) in HAMILTON. | |
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| re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? | |
| Posted by: kingbottom 01:52 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| In reply to: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - GrumpyMorningBoy 01:02 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| “Getting Better” The chord is played 8 or 9 times and then the vocal comes in “Its getting better all the time” | |
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| Another vote here for "Getting Better" from Pepper | |
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| Posted by: gad90210 03:16 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - kingbottom 01:52 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| My husband the Beatles freak said immediately that it's Getting Better. And he didn't know that Getting Better had been mentioned already. | |
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| re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 01:42 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| In reply to: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - GrumpyMorningBoy 01:02 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| To be upfront - I don't know. But - from one music nerd to another...I've actually never had a chance to listen to most of the Mixtape, and hearing this now is quite fun. I hear the change in the music - kind of hard to miss, lol - and I'm intrigued too. I hope someone knows the answer... | |
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| re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? | |
| Posted by: Bwayguy 01:08 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| In reply to: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - GrumpyMorningBoy 01:02 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| What makes you think those chords were lifted from a Beatles song or songs? | |
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| re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? | |
| Posted by: TheOtherOne 04:29 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Who here really knows their Beatles & their HAMILTON? - Bwayguy 01:08 pm EST 01/08/18 | |
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| Lin Manuel has apparently said as much, that he had the British invasion and the Beatles in particular in mind when he wrote King George's song. A friend of mine told me that three specific songs were referenced. I immediately got "Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite," came up with "Getting Better" after too many hints to count, and am not sure what the third song is. Maybe "Fixing A Hole?" Lin seemed to be focusing on the "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" album. | |
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